Powdercoat & Paint A place to discuss everything about powder coat and paint for your Harley.

Colorite

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #11  
Old 02-03-2023, 04:49 PM
carlgrover's Avatar
carlgrover
carlgrover is offline
Seasoned HDF Member
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Decatur, Alabama
Posts: 8,549
Received 2,211 Likes on 1,280 Posts
Default

I am no professional painter but I do paint from time to time. I did a tourpak last summer using colorite and it came out really nice. I do not paint with spray cans, I have a gun.

What you call cracking I call a really wicked bad alligator hide orange peel. It could have been caused by the paint being too cold. The ambient temp in your spray booth might have been too cold as well. Cold paint is thicker than warm paint. On top of that, you might have sprayed it on too thick and not allowed the solvents to flash off between passes. When you paint over existing paint that is still wet, you can blow it around with subsequent blasts from the spray can, giving a "curdled" appearance. Thus the alligator hide. Some guys will soak a spray can in a bath of warm water for a bit before shooting, like how Grandma used to heat up a baby bottle full of milk.

I recommend bringing all your parts inside the house and giving them 2 weeks to completely cure and harden. Then sand it all back down to smooth and try again. This time, make sure your paint room is warm enough and you have enough paint. Make light passes and allow the paint to flash off after each pass.

So why did the first can work out and the others didn't? I have no idea. It could be the temperature issue I mentioned. It could also be the paint in the first can was just thinned out better. Sorry the people at colorite didn't treat you better. No excuse for it. Paint is expensive as hell and if you wreck a job, you start from scratch. I'm doing some painting right now using a 2 part epoxy. I'm having adhesion problems as the masking tape is pulling up the paint. You may have heard me cussing last weekend.

Good luck, and let us know how the rework turns out.


Carl
 
The following 4 users liked this post by carlgrover:
gduncan (02-03-2023), gonemad (02-03-2023), M Oclaf (02-03-2023), MyFavRk (02-03-2023)
  #12  
Old 02-03-2023, 07:39 PM
gduncan's Avatar
gduncan
gduncan is offline
Tourer
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Annapolis
Posts: 377
Received 83 Likes on 62 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by carlgrover
I am no professional painter but I do paint from time to time. I did a tourpak last summer using colorite and it came out really nice. I do not paint with spray cans, I have a gun.

What you call cracking I call a really wicked bad alligator hide orange peel. It could have been caused by the paint being too cold. The ambient temp in your spray booth might have been too cold as well. Cold paint is thicker than warm paint. On top of that, you might have sprayed it on too thick and not allowed the solvents to flash off between passes. When you paint over existing paint that is still wet, you can blow it around with subsequent blasts from the spray can, giving a "curdled" appearance. Thus the alligator hide. Some guys will soak a spray can in a bath of warm water for a bit before shooting, like how Grandma used to heat up a baby bottle full of milk.

I recommend bringing all your parts inside the house and giving them 2 weeks to completely cure and harden. Then sand it all back down to smooth and try again. This time, make sure your paint room is warm enough and you have enough paint. Make light passes and allow the paint to flash off after each pass.

So why did the first can work out and the others didn't? I have no idea. It could be the temperature issue I mentioned. It could also be the paint in the first can was just thinned out better. Sorry the people at colorite didn't treat you better. No excuse for it. Paint is expensive as hell and if you wreck a job, you start from scratch. I'm doing some painting right now using a 2 part epoxy. I'm having adhesion problems as the masking tape is pulling up the paint. You may have heard me cussing last weekend.

Good luck, and let us know how the rework turns out.


Carl
Carl,

Thank you for the feed back and help. Who know why the two turned out the way they did, but they did, so moving on.

I removed all the old paint, took the parts down to bare metal and started over. Resprayed this week and they turned out fine. I'm letting all the parts sit for a while before I wet sand and polish.

Thanks again,
George
 
The following users liked this post:
gonemad (02-03-2023)
  #13  
Old 02-03-2023, 08:43 PM
GreenMonster's Avatar
GreenMonster
GreenMonster is offline
Road Master
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Orange County
Posts: 996
Received 597 Likes on 344 Posts
Default

Paint does not like cold weather
 
  #14  
Old 02-03-2023, 08:44 PM
GreenMonster's Avatar
GreenMonster
GreenMonster is offline
Road Master
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Orange County
Posts: 996
Received 597 Likes on 344 Posts
Default

Did you wipe it with anything like a cleaning agent ?
 
  #15  
Old 02-04-2023, 07:38 AM
roussfam's Avatar
roussfam
roussfam is online now
Seasoned HDF Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Ottawa, Ontario
Posts: 11,240
Received 6,804 Likes on 3,545 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by gduncan

I removed all the old paint, took the parts down to bare metal and started over. Resprayed this week and they turned out fine. I'm letting all the parts sit for a while before I wet sand and polish.

George
Glad it all worked out. I had bought some lowers but chickened out on painting them. I just prepped them and had a buddy shoot them for me. It cost me a case of beer.

Did you have to buy new product or were you able to continue using what you had?
 
  #16  
Old 02-04-2023, 04:29 PM
carlgrover's Avatar
carlgrover
carlgrover is offline
Seasoned HDF Member
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Decatur, Alabama
Posts: 8,549
Received 2,211 Likes on 1,280 Posts
Default

Glad the parts turned out fine.

carl
 
  #17  
Old 02-05-2023, 02:41 PM
roussfam's Avatar
roussfam
roussfam is online now
Seasoned HDF Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Ottawa, Ontario
Posts: 11,240
Received 6,804 Likes on 3,545 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by roussfam
...Did you have to buy new product or were you able to continue using what you had?
I just reread the thread, I see you just started over and redid the whole process with what you had. Glad it worked, I didn't think it was the product. Like others have said it could have been the prep or the time delay, why they weren't all affected, who knows
 

Last edited by roussfam; 02-05-2023 at 02:52 PM.
The following users liked this post:
gduncan (02-05-2023)
  #18  
Old 02-05-2023, 06:54 PM
gduncan's Avatar
gduncan
gduncan is offline
Tourer
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Annapolis
Posts: 377
Received 83 Likes on 62 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by carlgrover
Glad the parts turned out fine.

carl
Thank you...
 
  #19  
Old 02-05-2023, 06:56 PM
gduncan's Avatar
gduncan
gduncan is offline
Tourer
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Annapolis
Posts: 377
Received 83 Likes on 62 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by roussfam
Glad it all worked out. I had bought some lowers but chickened out on painting them. I just prepped them and had a buddy shoot them for me. It cost me a case of beer.

Did you have to buy new product or were you able to continue using what you had?
I was able to use what I had. Now comes the interest part. There's a tiny bit of orange peel. I've read you should wait a month for the paint to cure before wet sand and buff. Since I screwed up with the paint on some of the parts, I'll wait a month.
 
  #20  
Old 02-05-2023, 07:41 PM
MyFavRk's Avatar
MyFavRk
MyFavRk is offline
Seasoned HDF Member
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Canada Flats
Posts: 10,831
Received 6,478 Likes on 3,901 Posts
Default

Glad to hear that you got the pieces done . About 3 years ago , I did my hard bags and side covers , then last year , I did my tour pack . I only waited about a week before I wet sanded and polished , then waited a couple weeks before I washed and waxed the entire bike , haven't had any issues with it at all . At the time I painted the parts , the temp was above 70* , so not bad for a good curing temp .

You must be doing your work in a heated shop now , so I'm guessing you must have time to let it cure before you can ride .

If you can wait it out a month before sanding and polishing , then great , but if your in a rush , I don't think it'll be an issue .

 


Quick Reply: Colorite



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:01 PM.