Finally,what looks to be a viable fix for hd's compensator oiling issue!
#1
03-24-2015, 11:56 AM
Finally,what looks to be a viable fix for hd's compensator oiling issue!
FYI,1st i want to say i have no stake or stock in this CO and don't know anyone affiliated with it either.
Ok,with all the trouble many of us (including me) are having with the compensator on our bikes i was very excited when i came by this new product (was released approx middle of 2014) designed to address HD's lack of oil to the compensator issue and wanted to post this so everyone here in the HD forum has a chance to see it and make their own decision on if they think its a viable product or not and or to buy/install it or not .
I have seen it mentioned here & there in a few posts in this forum but it gets lost in those posts as its not the main subject with only a few people seeing it at best.
But since it looked like such a good product to address the comp oiling issues on the HD i could not resist posting it here to ensure everyone here has a chance to see it because it looks as though it could greatly reduce the failure rate while also greatly increasing reliability / srvc life of HD's heavier duty SE comp which has been a long time comming for many Hd owners.
It looks to be one of the best if not the best aftermarket upgrade i have seen that " directly addresses the lack of oil issue " that the comp see's on the HD.
I would not be surprised if you never have an issue with a comp again on a stock to even fairly hot/modded HD running HD's latest design SE comp with the additional oiling this product provides.
It's designed to work with the current replacement SE comp on the market today.
I ordered it the other day to install with the current Se Comp on my 09 FLHTCU.
Here are the links to it with a little info on the compensaver along with a few 1st hand use testimonials from guys that installed it too.
So chk out the 1st hand testimonials below (that seem to be very positive) along with the links below and let me know what you think!
Scott
http://gmrperformance.com/
http://www.compensaver.com/
What it is
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Some feedback on it with some guys that had mult comp failures in short timeframe/not many miles:
Posted on HDTALKING March , 2014
The idea of the "Compensaver" and the way it is made to oil the needed parts that usually run DRY/and Rust, is a BIG Improvement over the old "A" SE compensator replacement that I put into my 09 King. I grooved my compensator face to get some oil into it BUT The COMPENSAVER would have really helped on mine, even when I'm using the "A" SE replacement compensator.
NOW combining the Newer Comp. with the lube holes and the CompenSaver is the Cats Meow...
It IS just like Hoople said to me before he left this forum ......" The compensaver is A Quality Built/Best Idea item he ran across that will do the Oiling Job and Prevent/STOP Fretting..."
NO Guilt in Giving Credit where Credit is Due.... Products that help us out like the COMPENSAVER does, should be Broadcast here for all to see....
signed....BUBBIE
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ___________
Ok,with all the trouble many of us (including me) are having with the compensator on our bikes i was very excited when i came by this new product (was released approx middle of 2014) designed to address HD's lack of oil to the compensator issue and wanted to post this so everyone here in the HD forum has a chance to see it and make their own decision on if they think its a viable product or not and or to buy/install it or not .
I have seen it mentioned here & there in a few posts in this forum but it gets lost in those posts as its not the main subject with only a few people seeing it at best.
But since it looked like such a good product to address the comp oiling issues on the HD i could not resist posting it here to ensure everyone here has a chance to see it because it looks as though it could greatly reduce the failure rate while also greatly increasing reliability / srvc life of HD's heavier duty SE comp which has been a long time comming for many Hd owners.
It looks to be one of the best if not the best aftermarket upgrade i have seen that " directly addresses the lack of oil issue " that the comp see's on the HD.
I would not be surprised if you never have an issue with a comp again on a stock to even fairly hot/modded HD running HD's latest design SE comp with the additional oiling this product provides.
It's designed to work with the current replacement SE comp on the market today.
I ordered it the other day to install with the current Se Comp on my 09 FLHTCU.
Here are the links to it with a little info on the compensaver along with a few 1st hand use testimonials from guys that installed it too.
So chk out the 1st hand testimonials below (that seem to be very positive) along with the links below and let me know what you think!
Scott
http://gmrperformance.com/
http://www.compensaver.com/
What it is
The CompenSaver is an oil delivery system to prevent premature failure of the Harley Davidson compensator #42200064A on the Twin Cam engines produced starting in 2014. The compensator is retro fit-able from 2007 through 2013 model years. Cast in high quality steel.
What it doesThe CompenSaver redistributes lubrication to the working surfaces of the compensator that has been thrown out due to centrifugal forces. It supports and enhances the capillary action created by the Harley compensator by providing a generous oil supply to the interior of the assembly that otherwise is receiving an inadequate supply of oil to properly protect the spokes, cam and cam splines plus increases the oil supply to the oil intake at the end of the retainer providing a consistant oil flow to the sprocket bore and thrust areas.
What it prevents- Excessive wear of the contact surfaces
- Fretting
- The composite thrust washer reduces noise produced by the metal on metal roll thrust bearing
- greatly reduces damaging metal debris in primary assembly
- Unnecessary costly repairs
================================================== =====
Some feedback on it with some guys that had mult comp failures in short timeframe/not many miles:
Posted on HDTALKING March , 2014
The idea of the "Compensaver" and the way it is made to oil the needed parts that usually run DRY/and Rust, is a BIG Improvement over the old "A" SE compensator replacement that I put into my 09 King. I grooved my compensator face to get some oil into it BUT The COMPENSAVER would have really helped on mine, even when I'm using the "A" SE replacement compensator.
NOW combining the Newer Comp. with the lube holes and the CompenSaver is the Cats Meow...
It IS just like Hoople said to me before he left this forum ......" The compensaver is A Quality Built/Best Idea item he ran across that will do the Oiling Job and Prevent/STOP Fretting..."
NO Guilt in Giving Credit where Credit is Due.... Products that help us out like the COMPENSAVER does, should be Broadcast here for all to see....
signed....BUBBIE
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ___________
Email to us April, 2014
I have been running the CompenSaver in the primary of my 08 FLHX with a 148 hp 124" engine for the past year and I run ATF fluid in my primary.
I went thru two SE comps before purchasing the CompenSaver. My hope was to add it to my primary to try to cure my SE comp woes.
With the purchase of my 3rd SE comp along with the added CompenSaver...my primary has operated flawlessly and has not made a peep ever since I installed it.
I had my primary apart again this past winter to do a final drive chain conversion from the belt drive. I was absolutely amazed at the condition of my comp once I had my primary opened up. It had no galling or fretting anywhere and looked as good as new with a little over 5000 miles put on it.
My first two SE comp's only had 1500 miles on each of them before they started making a terrible racket...and once I pulled them apart...both comp's were basically dry with galling and fretting. They both were terrible condition because they were not getting any oil to the inside them.
Now with the CompenSaver added to my primary...my comp is enjoying a bath on the inside everytime I start it up.
I couldn't be happier with the results!
Ray
aka No Cents
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ___________
I have been running the CompenSaver in the primary of my 08 FLHX with a 148 hp 124" engine for the past year and I run ATF fluid in my primary.
I went thru two SE comps before purchasing the CompenSaver. My hope was to add it to my primary to try to cure my SE comp woes.
With the purchase of my 3rd SE comp along with the added CompenSaver...my primary has operated flawlessly and has not made a peep ever since I installed it.
I had my primary apart again this past winter to do a final drive chain conversion from the belt drive. I was absolutely amazed at the condition of my comp once I had my primary opened up. It had no galling or fretting anywhere and looked as good as new with a little over 5000 miles put on it.
My first two SE comp's only had 1500 miles on each of them before they started making a terrible racket...and once I pulled them apart...both comp's were basically dry with galling and fretting. They both were terrible condition because they were not getting any oil to the inside them.
Now with the CompenSaver added to my primary...my comp is enjoying a bath on the inside everytime I start it up.
I couldn't be happier with the results!
Ray
aka No Cents
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ___________
Emailed to us April, 2014
Setting up my ’08 FLHX with a 117 motor, and a performance clutch system that requires ATF. I was very concerned that my new SE compensator wouldn’t live long. Seems that no matter what lube is used, the SE compensators don’t have a very long life. After seeking options to prolong the compensator’s life, I decided that the GMR Compensaver would be my only option, and best chance of getting life out of the SE compensator. After 7,500+ miles running ATF in my primary, the compensator looks great, and performs as it should. There’s no other option out there for getting lubrication into the compensator that they desperately need.
Brian W.
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Emailed to us April 11, 2014
I like others have had plenty of problems and complaints from customers about the new style comps. Noisy, galling, worn out before they ever get off the dyno. The compensaver address these issues and after checking my own after 8000 miles of run time on it. My comp still looks like the day I put it in. Absolutely no noise and I haven't had a customer complaint about the ones I have installed. Great product.
Jason C
C&S Speed Shop
Setting up my ’08 FLHX with a 117 motor, and a performance clutch system that requires ATF. I was very concerned that my new SE compensator wouldn’t live long. Seems that no matter what lube is used, the SE compensators don’t have a very long life. After seeking options to prolong the compensator’s life, I decided that the GMR Compensaver would be my only option, and best chance of getting life out of the SE compensator. After 7,500+ miles running ATF in my primary, the compensator looks great, and performs as it should. There’s no other option out there for getting lubrication into the compensator that they desperately need.
Brian W.
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ___________
Emailed to us April 11, 2014
I like others have had plenty of problems and complaints from customers about the new style comps. Noisy, galling, worn out before they ever get off the dyno. The compensaver address these issues and after checking my own after 8000 miles of run time on it. My comp still looks like the day I put it in. Absolutely no noise and I haven't had a customer complaint about the ones I have installed. Great product.
Jason C
C&S Speed Shop
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03-24-2015, 12:14 PM
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03-24-2015, 12:53 PM
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LOL!!!!
Yeh i was expecting plenty of that from you guys!
But seriously,i am just trying to help out here so take a few mins to actually read about the product,the testimonials,and then go to the website to read about the R&D they did ,testing too before making a quick judgment without more info on it .
I have have over 4+ decades wrenching bikes/doing resto work on muscle cars inc rebuilding motors which gave me a good solid background working on motor vehicles (car/bikes/etc) and from a design standpoint this product looks to me to be a good viable fix to HD's compensator oiling issues which is what HD owners have been waiting yrs for.
So just maybe it would be worth taking 10-15mins of your time to chk it out rather then to seeming blow it off because it could very well make it so you dont have any more issues at all or not very often with the comp on your bike which i would think be a good thing for any newer twin cam HD owner.
Again,j am trying to help & inform people here & not pushing anything,if you think this product is NG that's fine,its your opinion & your bike to do what you want with.
But as for me i chose to buy & install the Compensaver with the new SE comp fi will be installing on my 09 FLHTCU because i feel it's a good product that should do what it's designed to do ,but only time & miles will tell for sure.
Happy & safe motoring !
Scott
LOL!!!!
Yeh i was expecting plenty of that from you guys!
But seriously,i am just trying to help out here so take a few mins to actually read about the product,the testimonials,and then go to the website to read about the R&D they did ,testing too before making a quick judgment without more info on it .
I have have over 4+ decades wrenching bikes/doing resto work on muscle cars inc rebuilding motors which gave me a good solid background working on motor vehicles (car/bikes/etc) and from a design standpoint this product looks to me to be a good viable fix to HD's compensator oiling issues which is what HD owners have been waiting yrs for.
So just maybe it would be worth taking 10-15mins of your time to chk it out rather then to seeming blow it off because it could very well make it so you dont have any more issues at all or not very often with the comp on your bike which i would think be a good thing for any newer twin cam HD owner.
Again,j am trying to help & inform people here & not pushing anything,if you think this product is NG that's fine,its your opinion & your bike to do what you want with.
But as for me i chose to buy & install the Compensaver with the new SE comp fi will be installing on my 09 FLHTCU because i feel it's a good product that should do what it's designed to do ,but only time & miles will tell for sure.
Happy & safe motoring !
Scott
Last edited by wscott; 03-24-2015 at 01:12 PM.
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