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Old 04-28-2024, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 98hotrodfatboy
For starters make sure you have a 1/2" to 5/8" slack in your primary chain.. Next, when you adjust the clutch just back the adjustment screw off 1/8 - 1/4 turn.. After that go with the 10 mm ball bearings in your clutch release ramp on the other side. They are .020" larger in diameter than the stock .375" bearings.. The best I could do with the stock setup was .068" on the clutch pack.. I have a video on YouTube that proves it picked up over .016" of an inch separation on the clutch pack.. I as well run an extra plate kit in my '97 in Evo ,110 horse /114 lb of torque but I'm running a Screaming Eagle spring that holds the power no problem..

Also as mentioned that Barnett extra heavy spring not necessary...

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Interesting, haven't heard of using a bigger ball bearing with the release arm before. Where did you source the 10mm ball bearings?
 
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Old 04-28-2024, 02:20 PM
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I got mine from Mcmaster Carr. You have to buy more than you need but not that expensive. You can use the rest for your sling shot.
 
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Think it was on eBay..
Pack of 10
 
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Unless you are building a hot 116 / 117 you got way too much clutch.. The Barnett heavy is 480 lbs and the pull will be pretty bad with stock ramps. You might want to check the steels for flatness. Someone else on this forum had issues with them not being flat.. Like others say, make sure the oil level in the primary is set right.. I go a little lower than recommended.

The stock clutch is good for 100/100 up to 2003. In 2004 they dropped the pressure to 300 lbs tho I've not measured one. A stock friction count barnett kevlar with the stock 330 lb spring will get you to 110/110 easy. I run a stock plate count barnett kevlar in a 107 07 EGC and it holds fine...
 
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I'm currently running a 257lb rated spring plate on a extra plate set by Energy One which is very similar to the Barnett clutch. In fact the guy that started Energy One used to work for Barnett. I've also got the larger 10mm ***** in the ramp assy. I found with the heavy duty spring it is so hard to pull it seems your cable must be stretching, and everything else is at it's limits. You can measure your pull or release or movement or whatever you want to call it with a dial indicator setup like this in the photo. You then stack your clutch plates and disc's and measure them for comparison. Look for light between the plates and discs with a bright flashlight from behind too. If there's light, they're warped.



 
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98hotrodfatboy & brakeless, I'm going to order some 10mm ball bearings and try them down the road when I have the exhaust off my bike. McMaster has 3 different types of 10mm ball bearings; Hardened Bearing Quality 440C Stainless Steel, Corrosion Resistant 316 Stainless Steel & Tight Tolerance Multipurpose 304 Stainless Steel. All are aboit the same price for a pack of 10. Do you know what ones you used or is any one of the aforementioned preferable over the others?

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I can't find my order history but I'd go with the hardened 440 stainless.
 
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I can't find my order history but I'd go with the hardened 440 stainless.
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Originally Posted by klammer76
98hotrodfatboy & brakeless, I'm going to order some 10mm ball bearings and try them down the road when I have the exhaust off my bike. McMaster has 3 different types of 10mm ball bearings; Hardened Bearing Quality 440C Stainless Steel, Corrosion Resistant 316 Stainless Steel & Tight Tolerance Multipurpose 304 Stainless Steel. All are aboit the same price for a pack of 10. Do you know what ones you used or is any one of the aforementioned preferable over the others?

Thanks.
If the 10mm do do the job, you can go as large as 13/32". That's what I have in Reaper, and I flick into neutral with zero effort; even when cold. Also, the first gear clunk is gone, too.

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