Decided on S&S 509c instead of the S&S 583C
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Decided on S&S 509c instead of the S&S 583C
Okay, so here is the scoop. Ordered a set of the 583C's for my 05 STD and received the 509C instead! Yes I was PO'ed but then right before I was about to return them with a nasty gram I did a bit more homework and decided to go with them and keep things on the mild side of the scale. My riding style played a big part in this decision. Let's put it this way, from July to September I put close to 5K miles on the bike and I want a reliable cam that will not be too hard on the lifter springs.
So here is what is going in the cam chest:
509C's
New roller tappets - Hydraulic
Quickie S&S push rods
Feuling cam plate and their 7000 oil pump
Zippers hydraulic chain tensioners
And, although undecided, an EFI tuner.
What was already on the bike:
SE breather
True duals
Heavy duty clutch spring
These will be installed in the early Spring.
Any thoughts or suggestions to what EFI tuner I should get? No, I ain't got Thundermax cash!! So that is out of the question. And I am computer savvy!
Wrath
So here is what is going in the cam chest:
509C's
New roller tappets - Hydraulic
Quickie S&S push rods
Feuling cam plate and their 7000 oil pump
Zippers hydraulic chain tensioners
And, although undecided, an EFI tuner.
What was already on the bike:
SE breather
True duals
Heavy duty clutch spring
These will be installed in the early Spring.
Any thoughts or suggestions to what EFI tuner I should get? No, I ain't got Thundermax cash!! So that is out of the question. And I am computer savvy!
Wrath
Last edited by wrathstitz; 11-11-2015 at 09:46 AM.
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Tuner - Fuel Moto Powervision...... call them and tell them everything you just told us and they will send you the device with a custom tune already made up for your bike. A lot of guys on here say you only need to run the "Autotune" function on the the programmer 3 times but I found after 7 times it got rid of most of the decel pop. I say run it 6-8 times minimum and you will be happy.
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I've been tuning cars for years but since our bikes have no 02 sensors and are only speed density I went with a power commander 3 from Fuel Moto. As Berick noted Fuel Moto sends one with a custom tune for your mods based on their experience and they were cheaper than buying direct from DynoJet. Overall a great experience with Fuel Moto.
I think you made a good decision to stick with a smaller cam. I made the mistake of a too big a cam once and it made for a not so fun ride.
I think you made a good decision to stick with a smaller cam. I made the mistake of a too big a cam once and it made for a not so fun ride.
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yep I think you done good also..
I studied cams for weeks before I choose my Andrews 26H's ... they too are easy on the engine while I ended up with almost 20% increase TQ across the Sheet..
I put them in at 15k and now with 53K the engine still Runs GREAT...and I've not had a single engine issue.....
I went with the older SERT tuner and dyno when I did the Stg1 mods at the 1K service.. mostlyu because back in 07 there was not many to choose from and I wouldn't/will not use a piggyback tuner. Just me...
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I studied cams for weeks before I choose my Andrews 26H's ... they too are easy on the engine while I ended up with almost 20% increase TQ across the Sheet..
I put them in at 15k and now with 53K the engine still Runs GREAT...and I've not had a single engine issue.....
I went with the older SERT tuner and dyno when I did the Stg1 mods at the 1K service.. mostlyu because back in 07 there was not many to choose from and I wouldn't/will not use a piggyback tuner. Just me...
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Can't see why they wouldn't. Though you may be right... Any idea just how FM goes about developing their index tune lists? I figured it was an open source element built in part by customers and their own in house dyno effort.
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And let's be honest, there's not a huge difference in any of these cams, Woods vs SE vs. Andrews, they all follow a basic small, mid and large cam profile. A couple of degrees here or there isn't much and it isn't going to change the tune.
Also, keep in mind the computers on our bikes, with no feedback system, are a nice step above a carb and distributor weights, but it's not that far above that and so the speed density tunes we have are not very complicated.
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I got my PV from FuelMoto along with my exhaust and AC. Great tune. However, when I added S&S 583 cams they were not able to provide one. I got it from S&S and they worked with me with heat and decel pop.