Well good evening riders,
I'm trying to find what kind of wideband O2 sensors I need for my softail slim s. I have vance and hines super radius pipes on and just purchased the power vision for the tune and figured I might as well get the wideband sensors. Anyone have ideas?

 

To go with wide bands with the power vision you will need to buy their target tuner kit.

 

Depends on what you plan to do.....? You can do an AutoTune basic with what you have, an AutoTune Pro with an additional module, or run Target Tune with an additional module... for any of these choices, you will need a bike that has wide band O2 sensor bungs, or you'll have to add them..

AT Basic- You can dial in a tune using auto tune basic, with your powervision and the stock narrow band sensors... I did this for years and it makes the bike run really well. I would run about 2 AT basic runs on a FuelMoto map, get it down to 4% average change on about 70% of the cells, including all that run in closed loop. My bike runs great! I also did this for 2 close friend's bikes... they are also licensed on my tuner.

Obviously, the narrow band sensors don't cover the range of the wide band sensors... that's why dyno operators and serious tuners use only wide band O2 sensors to make a tune... they need to cover the entire range of cells on the tune map.

I have both a pre OEM O2 sensor bike and an OEM O2 sensor bike....
I wanted to dial in the tune on the pre O2 sensor bike, so I went with the AT Pro module, w/ wide band O2 sensors... Plus I like to flash, then ride without modules attached to the bike...

AT Pro- To compare apples to apples, I put the original FuelMoto tune back in the bike I dialed in with the AT Basic . This time I did 2 AT Pro runs, with the wide band sensors ... I got the tune down to 1% average change, and about 90% of all cells covered, including all in closed loop. So the AT Pro covers more cells and gets to a better VE adjustment quicker.... AND it allows me to AT the bike without OEM O2 sensors...

Target Tune- If you want your bike to run in a larger closed loop portion of the map, then you can add the target tune, and wide band O2 sensors, to your PowerVision. After having FuelMoto/DynoJet convert your tune to a target tune format, the target tune module will convert the wide band sensor info so you're OEM ECM can use the information. This will give you a bigger closed loop MAP that adjusts, real time, to your riding conditions. It will be superior to the closed loop portion of the OEM set-up.

This was a pretty simplistic explanation of your choices with the PowerVision. It's a great tool/tuner... very intuitive to use and can do most anything you will ever need to do...

I suggest to call FuelMoto to discuss these options and what suits you needs best... They know a little bit more about it than I do....

Good luck..!

 

Basically just trying to get the damn heat down as well as a better tune and looks like the wideband will give a lot more opportunities to cool the bike down from the basic tune and narrow band sensors

 

IMHO... heat is inescapable when sitting atop an air-cooled motorcycle engine. The bigger the displacement, the bigger the heat.....

I've yet to notice a decrease in felt temperature, from a tune. The biggest change I felt is when I went to a catless, ceramic coated head pipe... (FuelMoto 2-1-2). That made a noticeable decrease in felt temps, but the bike can still get hot in slow or stop & go traffic.....

Nature of the beast....

 

I have the Autotune pro with wideband O2 sensors on my 02 Fatboy. You can't just put widebands in without first having either the target tune or Autotune Pro module to run the widebands with the PV, but its well worth the investment,makes tuning so much easier and quicker!