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Old 12-16-2009, 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by deadeye
And you are quoting the same tired crap I've heard for 20+ years, "If you don't wear the the right safety gear off duty & off base, we won't pay your medical bills. Its an empty threat.
Not sure which branch, but I can tell you from 25+ being military it is not an empty threat. I have seen 3 'line of duty' determinations where they did NOT cover the medical cost of the active duty injured due to the fact they did not follow the off-base rule for wearing protective gear.

As far as 'simple' retirees. (Not DOD or contractor employee/affiliated) Protective gear as far as helmets, gloves, long sleeves and shoes apply, but I haven't had any base insist on the belt. The regs typically stipulate those for ACTIVE duty members.
 
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Old 12-16-2009, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Snow1989
Not sure which branch, but I can tell you from 25+ being military it is not an empty threat. I have seen 3 'line of duty' determinations where they did NOT cover the medical cost of the active duty injured due to the fact they did not follow the off-base rule for wearing protective gear.
I would say this is especially true considering the extra focus on motorcycle riders within the last 2 years. Those who have been retired for a while may not realize the large amount of attention that military motorcycle riders have been receiving. I don't know how many times I had to provide info on type of bike I ride, how long I've been riding, whether or not I had the basic rider course and/or advanced riders course, and other info. In addition I was required to take an advanced rider's course. If you do get injured in a motorcycle accident without the proper gear and those more concerned about the "motorcycle issue" get involved, you might become an example.
 
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The Marine Corps stopped requiring vests earlier this year.
 

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The Marine Corps stopped requiring vests earlier this year.
Its good to hear some areas of the military are easing up on biker harassment. Personally I wear helmet, jacket, gloves, anyway because I see their value. The vest is just nanny state harassment.
 
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Old 12-17-2009, 02:44 AM
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This year on the Marine base I work at change it... No longer required to wear reflective vest day or night? I don't know why they did it but I don't mind it. I think ithas to do with guys riding around in town off base... if the wearing a reflective vest and they're F'ing around the locals just don't just think "Look at that military guy" They care more about what the public thinks sometimes? Anyway it's still strange to see riders on base at night with no vest.
 
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Originally Posted by RedBen
All of those guys who take off all their gear after leaving the base need to pay attention to part "a" in the quote above. You have to have the basics that are in the DOD instruction basically anytime you ride. That, however, does not include the reflective vest. But if you leave base and switch to shorts, t-shirt, and no helmet (in states where helmet is not required) and you get in a wreck, whether it's your fault or not, the military might not cover your medical bills. I'm not sure about life insurance, but that might not get paid out if you're killed either.
That threat to not pay medical claims I have never seen executed. Not sure it could be. But I have seen NJP or courts martial proceedings used. I've even seen where AWOL was used. You do not hear the threat of withholding for DUIs, on or off post.

 
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The more I learn about about the modern Army, the happier I am that I was in when it hadn’t become totally pussified yet.
 

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Don't expect an answer on a 10 year old post.
 
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I never expect an answer on any post regardless of age. It’s all about the count.
 
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Originally Posted by IronAss
I never expect an answer on any post regardless of age. It’s all about the count.
You're in AZ, go riding and screw the post count.
Are you competing with Chickenonachain? Who BTW I hear isn't on here anymore.
 


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