I agree, the 4" risers just don't look right with apes at all. Well, IMHO that is. I am ordering my bars this wensdsday, along with risers, cables and switching over to hydraulic clutch so I can do all internals. I just can't pin it down if I want the Gangsters or the Flying apes. So, pics of these 2 bars are always nice to see. I am also watching this thread for bar height as well.
I have Flying Apes (16", 1.25") on a Deluxe and they are probably really 17.5". I am 6 foot and they are maybe 1" above my shoulders. I have the Daddy Long Legs seat so I sit low and back on the bike. SJ Ron