How low do you run your oil
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With my experience I disagree with some saying levels don't cause excessive blow by. If I run mine with the oil filled up to the full mark, my slobber box will fill up berry quickly if I'm running her hard and then it's down my pipes. I run mine a little above half on the safe mark and don't have the issue. Maybe its just mine but a buddy told me to try it and it works for me. Now long fast runs, I'll still make a little mess but not nearly as much.
As has been said, the cause is elsewhere. Possibly your umbrella valves, or some slight blockage in the return passages causing higher pressures in the rocker boxes. Or a combination of the two that shows up more quickly when you are running hard.
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apache snow (03-13-2019)
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Make sure there is some oil present in either the tank, or the dry sump area of the engine. Failure to maintain oil to precise specifications will void warranty.
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Being a dry sump design (separate oil tank), it makes sense that it would not matter what size the tank was, nor how full the tank was....it should all be irrelevant to how much "blow-by" or, as HD calls it, Oil Carryover there is.
It make sense, and therefore there is a justifiable basis for believing that no matter how full the tank is, it will not have an affect on blow-by.
The water is further muddied by different bikes have different amounts of blow-by.
But, there are two facts-
1. HD specifically states that if you overfill the tank it can result in oil carryover (blow-by).
2. We have seen hundreds of bikes, where the level of oil in the tank has a direct affect on how much oil comes out of the breather bolts...everything else being equal.
Why it works this way...when oil level would seem to be irrelevant...I do not know.
But Harley knows it works this way, which is why they put a warning about it in the manual, and we have seen it work this way.
btw, we have also seen many bike where regardless of the level in the oil tank, they will get excessive blow-by. This is when a deeper looks should be taken at umbrella valves, oil pumps, heat, oil viscosity, etc.
Here is a LINK to a thread examining this subject in more depth.
It make sense, and therefore there is a justifiable basis for believing that no matter how full the tank is, it will not have an affect on blow-by.
The water is further muddied by different bikes have different amounts of blow-by.
But, there are two facts-
1. HD specifically states that if you overfill the tank it can result in oil carryover (blow-by).
2. We have seen hundreds of bikes, where the level of oil in the tank has a direct affect on how much oil comes out of the breather bolts...everything else being equal.
Why it works this way...when oil level would seem to be irrelevant...I do not know.
But Harley knows it works this way, which is why they put a warning about it in the manual, and we have seen it work this way.
btw, we have also seen many bike where regardless of the level in the oil tank, they will get excessive blow-by. This is when a deeper looks should be taken at umbrella valves, oil pumps, heat, oil viscosity, etc.
Here is a LINK to a thread examining this subject in more depth.
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TStephen (03-13-2019)
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I could see the oil level being an issue which would cause blow-by, but only if it were blocking the return line in the oil tank, leading to increased back pressure on the oil passages.
But, if experience says otherwise for some people, who am I to say they are wrong?
Thanks for the info.
But, if experience says otherwise for some people, who am I to say they are wrong?
Thanks for the info.
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