Screamin Eagle vs S&S
#51
10-02-2015, 06:27 PM
#53
10-02-2015, 06:38 PM
#54
10-02-2015, 07:17 PM
I bought an S&S cam plate for an 07 electraglide , so yes they have plates with the 07, and up spec, along with the oil pump. If you want I can give you part numbers.
#55
10-02-2015, 07:21 PM
If you Read my posts, it will tell you exactly what it is, but I will say again, the conversion cams from Andrews uses 07 and up ROLLER CHAINS, and the case end fits the tc88" cam bearings , and the outer fits the 07, and up outer cam plate bushings.
#57
10-02-2015, 07:59 PM
I really am trying to help you out on this, and here is my last post on this thread....The ONLY one that I know of that makes Conversion cams is Andrews, SCREAMIN EAGLE DOES NOT. The Conversion cam makes your 88" engine like a 96" engine in the cam chest area with roller chains, and "normal bearings" . The 88" comes with flat stamped link type chains, so there is nothing to stop wear, so they wear down , and cause nasty things in an engine, the 07 and up 96" motor has Roller Chains on the cams , and on the outer chain sprockets, these only wear to rollers.
If you do this upgrade with S&S you won't even have to peek in the cam chest for a minimum 50k miles. I personally have seen bikes that had 80k on the new style chains , and they only have 2 little grooves in the tensioners because of the rollers.
Here are some part numbers of what I did.
S&S Cam plate
Part Number 310-0625
S&S oil Pump part Number 310-0641
The Andrews 21N cams
You will need chains, tensioners (you can buy stock 96" tensioners and chains) OR I went with zippers redshift dual piston tensioners with stock HD chains , and outer sprockets. I believe the sprockets cost around $100.00
I used fueling lifters, and put in koyo torington B-148 inner full complement Cam bearings. You will need some cam shim washers, a snap ring, some O rings ,and gaskets depending on how you deal with push rods.
Don't feel dumb about this either, because when I was thinking about doing it, even a call to S&S they had NO clue how to do this .
Here is a PDF file from Andrews. I still like the S&S plate because it is rebuild able.
/sites/www.andrewsproducts.com/files/assets/Cams_conversion_chain-01.pdf
If you do this upgrade with S&S you won't even have to peek in the cam chest for a minimum 50k miles. I personally have seen bikes that had 80k on the new style chains , and they only have 2 little grooves in the tensioners because of the rollers.
Here are some part numbers of what I did.
S&S Cam plate
Part Number 310-0625
S&S oil Pump part Number 310-0641
The Andrews 21N cams
You will need chains, tensioners (you can buy stock 96" tensioners and chains) OR I went with zippers redshift dual piston tensioners with stock HD chains , and outer sprockets. I believe the sprockets cost around $100.00
I used fueling lifters, and put in koyo torington B-148 inner full complement Cam bearings. You will need some cam shim washers, a snap ring, some O rings ,and gaskets depending on how you deal with push rods.
Don't feel dumb about this either, because when I was thinking about doing it, even a call to S&S they had NO clue how to do this .
Here is a PDF file from Andrews. I still like the S&S plate because it is rebuild able.
/sites/www.andrewsproducts.com/files/assets/Cams_conversion_chain-01.pdf
So even though S&S makes a cam plate for my year bike but has been revised to only accepts hydraulic tensioners like the 07+ 96" models, doing that and cams for an 88" wont work because I would still have to use my original chain? I need an 07+ cam plate but then I can't use a cam for an 88" motor unless its a conversion cam which means I either have to use SE or Andrews? And if I go with the 07+ cam plate then I need to also purchase new gears to accept the new chain.
Last edited by Bill03E; 11-08-2015 at 04:49 PM.
#58
10-02-2015, 08:08 PM
The SE kit comes with splined sprockets for roller chain that comes with it. I couldn't use the sprockets & chain on mine with the M&M fuel inj that was on 99-01. Wish I could of used the new roller chain. So I don't think you have to have the conversion cams to use a roller on your bike. But u would if using newer plate.