2017 Milwaukee-8 Castration of the Harley rider
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There are many different types of riders out there of course, to each their own. We all have different motivations for riding... scenery, escapism, hot rodding etc..
So for those on this thread who keep wondering why heavily mod a harley? Why not buy a hayabusa argument? Here's a little explanation of the appeal.
My hopped up 107 dyna has frequently hung with 600 plus cc rice burners on 1/4 mile light to light sprints. This same dyna is a soon to be maxed out 124ci, so not hard to see coming result. And I add, it's not my need to smoke every willing party. I would be more than happy to be the only vehicle on the road, and often ride places to do just that. I ride for many reasons, sometimes laid back, sometimes aggressive. So why a fast harley? Why go through the trouble?
1. heavily modified parts = pricey
2. modest wrenching skills = covered
3. reaction of rice burner
being smoked = priceless
And doing it on a heavy bagger, even more rewarding. So I'm pulling
for the M8(because I want one). and a subdued EFA please.
So for those on this thread who keep wondering why heavily mod a harley? Why not buy a hayabusa argument? Here's a little explanation of the appeal.
My hopped up 107 dyna has frequently hung with 600 plus cc rice burners on 1/4 mile light to light sprints. This same dyna is a soon to be maxed out 124ci, so not hard to see coming result. And I add, it's not my need to smoke every willing party. I would be more than happy to be the only vehicle on the road, and often ride places to do just that. I ride for many reasons, sometimes laid back, sometimes aggressive. So why a fast harley? Why go through the trouble?
1. heavily modified parts = pricey
2. modest wrenching skills = covered
3. reaction of rice burner
being smoked = priceless
And doing it on a heavy bagger, even more rewarding. So I'm pulling
for the M8(because I want one). and a subdued EFA please.
Last edited by ntraindavefl; 08-30-2016 at 12:55 PM.
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In the grand scheme of things, motorcycles do not warrant the time and effort of the EPA. There are many more real hazards they could be fighting. The ONLY reason motorcycle non compliance is a big deal now is because someone wanted it to be, and that someone was HARLEY. This gives them a head start in selling "complaint" performance parts, and will level the playing field for awhile, until other companies catch up. Kind of like a reset for performance parts.
Harley will always sell their bikes, but service and parts is a very large part of any dealerships bottom line, during rough times a service department will carry a dealership financially, with parts coming in right behind. Harley has now found a way to corner the market on "compliant parts" (initially) and also threaten riders with no service if the bike is found to be non complaint to EPA regs. Harley is gambling that most of their customers will fall in line and comply, so a year from now, their bottom line is stronger than it is today.
The only people caught off guard by the latest EPA developments was the consumer, Harley sure as hell wasn't.
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Hogwash. Harley most likely paid a $1 or $2 to have the tuners made. Couple million at the most to get back from the dealers. Chicken starch to them guys. Most people would be amazed at the mark up on most stuff sold today.
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Oddly, or not, I see it just the opposite way. The EPA is making it hard to produce a satisfying motorcycle any more. The 8 valve would appear to meet the EPA requirements AND provide an improvement in performance that will tempt many to update their rides. Rather than letting the EPA choke down V twin engines until no one wants one any more, Harley took a step forward and increased power and remained EPA compliant. I know of no manufacturer that can sell an engine that already has all the go fast goodies on it AND can be EPA certified and provide any kind of warranty on it. Durability is what is sacrificed to make a highly modified engine. Those genetically predisposed to be the quickest on the street will continue that quest. Being EPA compliant was never in their plan anyway. Harley provided MORE POWER in spite of the EPA, for that I give them my appreciation. Well done.
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Harley is not buying back the ones they sold you and me. HD corporate is buying back the unsold inventory from their dealers. We are stuck with the ones we bought.
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There are many different types of riders out there of course, to each their own. We all have different motivations for riding... scenery, escapism, hot rodding etc..
So for those on this thread who keep wondering why heavily mod a harley? Why not buy a hayabusa argument? Here's a little explanation of the appeal.
My hopped up 107 dyna has frequently hung with 600 plus cc rice burners on 1/4 mile light to light sprints. This same dyna is a soon to be maxed out 124ci, so not hard to see coming result. And I add, it's not my need to smoke every willing party. I would be more than happy to be the only vehicle on the road, and often ride places to do just that. I ride for many reasons, sometimes laid back, sometimes aggressive. So why a fast harley? Why go through the trouble?
1. heavily modified parts = pricey
2. modest wrenching skills = covered
3. reaction of rice burner
being smoked = priceless
And doing it on a heavy bagger, even more rewarding. So I'm pulling
for the M8(because I want one). and a subdued EFA please.
So for those on this thread who keep wondering why heavily mod a harley? Why not buy a hayabusa argument? Here's a little explanation of the appeal.
My hopped up 107 dyna has frequently hung with 600 plus cc rice burners on 1/4 mile light to light sprints. This same dyna is a soon to be maxed out 124ci, so not hard to see coming result. And I add, it's not my need to smoke every willing party. I would be more than happy to be the only vehicle on the road, and often ride places to do just that. I ride for many reasons, sometimes laid back, sometimes aggressive. So why a fast harley? Why go through the trouble?
1. heavily modified parts = pricey
2. modest wrenching skills = covered
3. reaction of rice burner
being smoked = priceless
And doing it on a heavy bagger, even more rewarding. So I'm pulling
for the M8(because I want one). and a subdued EFA please.
#139
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There are many different types of riders out there of course, to each their own. We all have different motivations for riding... scenery, escapism, hot rodding etc..
So for those on this thread who keep wondering why heavily mod a harley? Why not buy a hayabusa argument? Here's a little explanation of the appeal.
My hopped up 107 dyna has frequently hung with 600 plus cc rice burners on 1/4 mile light to light sprints. This same dyna is a soon to be maxed out 124ci, so not hard to see coming result. And I add, it's not my need to smoke every willing party. I would be more than happy to be the only vehicle on the road, and often ride places to do just that. I ride for many reasons, sometimes laid back, sometimes aggressive. So why a fast harley? Why go through the trouble?
1. heavily modified parts = pricey
2. modest wrenching skills = covered
3. reaction of rice burner
being smoked = priceless
And doing it on a heavy bagger, even more rewarding. So I'm pulling
for the M8(because I want one). and a subdued EFA please.
So for those on this thread who keep wondering why heavily mod a harley? Why not buy a hayabusa argument? Here's a little explanation of the appeal.
My hopped up 107 dyna has frequently hung with 600 plus cc rice burners on 1/4 mile light to light sprints. This same dyna is a soon to be maxed out 124ci, so not hard to see coming result. And I add, it's not my need to smoke every willing party. I would be more than happy to be the only vehicle on the road, and often ride places to do just that. I ride for many reasons, sometimes laid back, sometimes aggressive. So why a fast harley? Why go through the trouble?
1. heavily modified parts = pricey
2. modest wrenching skills = covered
3. reaction of rice burner
being smoked = priceless
And doing it on a heavy bagger, even more rewarding. So I'm pulling
for the M8(because I want one). and a subdued EFA please.
Dave you are correct there are a lot of different style riders out there. buying my new street glide was a plan I have had from some time and turning it into one hell of a performance machine is the plan. sure I have had fast sport bikes but they are not as enjoyable to ride as this new glide. my dyna was very fast harley and I loved the look in the faces of the sport bike riders and 2 v rods when i just pulled away from them and spanked there asses in the 1/4 mile. there are a lot of people that have never ridden a harley that makes over 120 horses and feel the performance the machine lays down to the pavement. Im gear head and like performance machines why not have a 150 squared bagger now that is bad ***!
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Hey Chris, train is getting the bottom end 124 treatment as we speak. Dyna next in month or so, parts will be up in classified I suppose. Will be hard to tear into that dyna, it runs so great as is. Oh well, no turning back now, 124 parts being collected.