I've started a recent topic lately regarding the differences between fuel tuners and what came up were the Power-vision and the V&H Fuelpak 3 and decided that I was going to go with the Powervision, but then..I found out about the TTS:MT- this time around, I'm looking to check out the know on the TTS Mastertune in comparison to the Powervision.

Hoping someone here has some experience with either or- possibly both. I didn't previously know about this one- but a guy I was speaking to touched on the subject of the TTS while we were speaking about Dyno tuning my bike.

Board thoughts?

 

TTS is designed by the same guy that designed the Screamin Eagle tuners, very similar software to tune. Power Vision can be turned into an Auto tuning system with the addition of the wideband O2 sensors and hardware.

 

Your going to get a bunch of difference answers to which sideline folks like to cheer from.

Both are good turners, one does tune better, one is easier to use.

For ME, TTS Mastertune Turner is the only way to go.

(May I also add, if Dyno tune is required, check for what the Turner likes to tune with.)


JMHO,


YB

 

I have used both on same bike. TTS has its Fanboys that will say it's better. But actually you can get a good tune out of either one. For me you can't go wrong with TTS or power vision. You have no idea what a heated battle this question is. LoL

 

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There is a highly regarded tuner around here that uses TTS, and only TTS. I already have a PV so I can't justify the entry fee to have him do my bike.

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I use the Power Vision but this advice right here is the best you will get

I will add though, my guy that did the Dyno on the 124 I just installed used my Power Vision and I think I ended up with great numbers and the bike runs great!

 

Fuel Moto offers good support for the PV if you plan to make future upgrades in steps. I purchased a PV when they first came out for a stage 1 96 engine, and just received a new map for my H.O. 107 build. PV gives you a few options as well like wide band Autotune and Target tune options. With my 107 I am wanting it optimized without taking it to a dyno so am going to add the target tune package to my PV.

 

I have the TTS on my 2010 Street Glide. It does everything, but you have to have a windows computer. Their auto tune feature is pretty good. Because of my cam install I couldn't auto tune the lower RPMs, so I got a dyno tune by Judy at Tilley's HD in Salisbury NC, he did a great job.

If I was buying a tuner today I would purchase FP3 due to its comprehensive features, ease of use and autotune function. I helped a friend install cams who had a FP3 and it was pretty awesome.

 

The PV is a good tuner. It will have limitations if used with the factory narrow band O2's as mentioned, but very flexible and nice features.


I installed one on my 2012 Ultra Limited, with V & H "X" pipe, Rinehart 4" slip ons and SE air cleaner assembly. Was able to do some data-logging and get the fuel economy up into the mid-40's from low to mid 30's. That bike from day one was a gas sucking pig no matter what I did to it before installing the PV.


Ran it for quite a while with the PC-V before the switch, and tried just about every MAP offered that looked close plus considerable custom tuning.


I never did get the engine to where I was completely satisfied with power production, and a dyno run verified my suspicions that the factory emission cams needed to go.


Can't comment on the TTS tuner, but it's probably a decent part, and like the PV, the more you become intimately familiar with them and all the features, the better the end result will be......IMHO......Cliff

 

From my experience the power vision is easier to use and make changes. I will admit the TTS is probably better. But unless you are going to have the bike dyno tuned I think the power vision is better for the average user. It is more user friendly. I have used the SEPRO in the past, which is a version of the TTS. There is no doubt about the power of the TTS. There is also no doubt the "average" rider will not like the amount of time it takes to learn how to use it. JMO.