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Old Nov 12, 2018 | 05:18 PM
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Switching out my compensator for a Drag Specialties spring-less solid sprocket as per the recommendation of the shop owner.

Wondering why one would go with a spring set up still like the SE or Baker when you can just get a solid one and not worry about it. Plus it's way cheaper..

Am I missing something? I don't see mention of them much on here. Motor is all stock.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2018 | 05:26 PM
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No spring means a harder shift which I think harley has gone to for larger bore engines.

I like the compensator from Baker.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2018 | 05:42 PM
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The Baker would run $650ish versus about $150 for the solid one. When you say harder shifts, would that be like more of a clunk?
 
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Old Nov 12, 2018 | 05:42 PM
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I just received my baker, I hope it works as good as all the post I have read. all said and done it cost me about 1000 bucks by the time I paid shipping and duties. Sucks living in Canada
 
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Old Nov 12, 2018 | 05:53 PM
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I'm running a 32 tooth comp eliminator sprocket on my 124 inch breakout. I'm running a manual chain adjuster also. Don't see any difference in harshness with it.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2018 | 05:59 PM
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Its not harder shifts thats the issue, the compensator is designed to cushion against the vibrations of the motor, even if your crank is within .02, you risk damage to downstream parts of the primary, oil pump, bearings, etc. The compensator is there for a reason
 
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Old Nov 12, 2018 | 08:11 PM
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You are putting higher shock loads on the crankshaft and the entire drive train by removing the compensator. Like Keithhu said, "the compensator is there for a reason." And that reason is to minimize the shock loads that if not mitigated can cause other problems.

Will you have problems? Not necessarily, but your chances are certainly increased.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2018 | 08:25 PM
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No worries, as per usual all the exp here will come from those that have no exp with going to just a sprocket.
They will repeat the internet chatter and their fingers will just be poping the words.
From an engineering point of view with lots f numbers and stufffff.-
It comes dwn to two things
Power pulses, and low-speed absorptions.
(RPM divided two) broken dwn onto seconds if you want.
No matter what you do you have just two cylinders made to fire unevenly.
Almost end of subject.!
But for Now-
To get rid of the power stroke shock pulse Hd has used many types of comps.
Replacing them with just a sprocket has been a go-to for years and works well.
I know of no one that has broken anythng ever.
Shifting would be unchanged as the clutch is still the same and matching the dwn shift is all the same
.All that happened is now the engine is a little more direct tp the transmission.
Go for it and tell us how it goes.
I think you will like it a lot, and HD will miss out selling you a 600 dollar part again and again.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2018 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 2black1s
You are putting higher shock loads on the crankshaft and the entire drive train by removing the compensator. Like Keithhu said, "the compensator is there for a reason." And that reason is to minimize the shock loads that if not mitigated can cause other problems.

Will you have problems? Not necessarily, but your chances are certainly increased.
Fked up out of phase wheels will have to be addressed sooner or later anyway...
Right?
If a comp deletion sends it over the edge, truly we are blaming the wrong thing.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2018 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Kingglide549
No worries, as per usual all the exp here will come from those that have no exp with going to just a sprocket.
They will repeat the internet chatter and their fingers will just be poping the words.
From an engineering point of view with lots f numbers and stufffff.-
It comes dwn to two things
Power pulses, and low-speed absorptions.
(RPM divided two) broken dwn onto seconds if you want.
No matter what you do you have just two cylinders made to fire unevenly.
Almost end of subject.!
But for Now-
To get rid of the power stroke shock pulse Hd has used many types of comps.
Replacing them with just a sprocket has been a go-to for years and works well.
I know of no one that has broken anythng ever.
Shifting would be unchanged as the clutch is still the same and matching the dwn shift is all the same
.All that happened is now the engine is a little more direct tp the transmission.
Go for it and tell us how it goes.
I think you will like it a lot, and HD will miss out selling you a 600 dollar part again and again.
Honestly, I just took advice of the local independant Harley shop, dude's a master mechanic and I am not. Said they've been doing it for years with zero issues. He's not making any money selling me expensive parts.

I have seen threads of people replacing the compensator multiple times on their bike, dealing with bad comp designs that Harley kept releasing, etc.. Seems like a pain.

He said I wouldn't have to worry about those kinds of issues anymore. My motor is all stock, I'm not trying to reach any crazy performance numbers. Just want a reliable bike to take on long trips and enjoy the ride.

Should have it back by Friday and I'll let you know how it went.

 
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