Is a mild cam upgrade worth it? Seat of the pants dyno?
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Is a mild cam upgrade worth it? Seat of the pants dyno?
Ill be doing my cam tensioner next winter and you know we all suffer from the 'while im in here' syndrome.....
Ive got a 06 FLHI, currently running a SE stage 1 kit (air filter, pipes and re-map)
I dont want to get wild and do a bunch of research, but Im wondering if a set of cams will really make a large difference in 'seat of the pants' acceleration. Im looking for more off the line and midrange power, as I seldom get the chance to run above 90MPH.
Will a few hundred bucks on cams get me a 'holy sheet' kind of difference or will it just be a 'oh, thats a little different'?
(I ask because I dropped over a grand on a custom grind, hydraulic roller cam in my 454. It was a 'nice' upgrade but it wasnt earth shattering. Replacing rear end gears......now THAT will make you sheet your pants....)
Ive got a 06 FLHI, currently running a SE stage 1 kit (air filter, pipes and re-map)
I dont want to get wild and do a bunch of research, but Im wondering if a set of cams will really make a large difference in 'seat of the pants' acceleration. Im looking for more off the line and midrange power, as I seldom get the chance to run above 90MPH.
Will a few hundred bucks on cams get me a 'holy sheet' kind of difference or will it just be a 'oh, thats a little different'?
(I ask because I dropped over a grand on a custom grind, hydraulic roller cam in my 454. It was a 'nice' upgrade but it wasnt earth shattering. Replacing rear end gears......now THAT will make you sheet your pants....)
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Cam was my best engine performance upgrade so far.
I’m still using a MAP from Fuel Moto that has 4 Autotune runs and a few other tweaks and it runs great.
I’ll do a pro Dyno on it soon to squeeze everything I can out of my build. Plus I’d also like to see what kind of numbers I’m putting up. Butt Dyno is all good but everyone wants to know if they broke that 100 Tq barrier?
Do a cam while you’re in it!
I’m still using a MAP from Fuel Moto that has 4 Autotune runs and a few other tweaks and it runs great.
I’ll do a pro Dyno on it soon to squeeze everything I can out of my build. Plus I’d also like to see what kind of numbers I’m putting up. Butt Dyno is all good but everyone wants to know if they broke that 100 Tq barrier?
Do a cam while you’re in it!
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Will a base fuelpak suffice? Im currently running a FP3. I know its not truly 'customizable' and can only be set with pre-loaded numbers.
Again, I dont want to go too far down the rabbit hole. If I can bolt in a set of cams and dial in the FP3 and go "WOW".....Im all in....but common sense tells me its more complicated (and expensive) than that.
Again, I dont want to go too far down the rabbit hole. If I can bolt in a set of cams and dial in the FP3 and go "WOW".....Im all in....but common sense tells me its more complicated (and expensive) than that.
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I can't believe I am replying to a troll.
why ask if replacing a stock mild cam with another mild cam is going to make a difference.
Why ask if the FP3 will adapt to the new cam. If you do not know that it will there is your first problem to resolve.
do some research on what cams FP3 supports then go shopping.
why ask if replacing a stock mild cam with another mild cam is going to make a difference.
Why ask if the FP3 will adapt to the new cam. If you do not know that it will there is your first problem to resolve.
do some research on what cams FP3 supports then go shopping.
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Did exactly as you are thinking here. Stage 1, FuelPak3 and added some andrews 21 cams for that low down torque. There was a very noticeable difference, but no holy **** for sure. Changed to Power commander 3 down the road and made a bit of difference due to more setting options. I can tell you that I ride a lot of NW Arkansas hills and curves, and I dont need to downshift for most hills. Just roll back the throttle and up she goes. That is with 2 up riding also. Didnt make her a hot rod, but gave her some nice extra pull off the line. You can feel it when the cam kicks in, which is about 1300 rpm, not right off the line, but pretty soon after. It is much more intense when riding solo.
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Did exactly as you are thinking here. Stage 1, FuelPak3 and added some andrews 21 cams for that low down torque. There was a very noticeable difference, but no holy **** for sure. Changed to Power commander 3 down the road and made a bit of difference due to more setting options. I can tell you that I ride a lot of NW Arkansas hills and curves, and I dont need to downshift for most hills. Just roll back the throttle and up she goes. That is with 2 up riding also. Didnt make her a hot rod, but gave her some nice extra pull off the line. You can feel it when the cam kicks in, which is about 1300 rpm, not right off the line, but pretty soon after. It is much more intense when riding solo.
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Lots of 3-5 year old bikes with $10,000 in "upgrades" available. I think the owners get bored and just spend money. Many of those bikes have less than 2000 miles a year on them. But, it's their money for them to spend as they choose.
A torque cam will not give impressive numbers, but will provide noticeable power difference below 4000 RPM.
Or, maybe take a track day and learn how to ride your bike faster?
Last edited by Goose_NC; 05-22-2019 at 12:28 PM.