Question for Touring bike riders without ABS
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Salt Lake City, UT. Dushore, Pa.
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I've locked both up to avoid deer, antelope without going down, just have to get off the back, I have floating rotors on the front which give you a little better stopping power. With your racing experience you should be fine w/o ABS, just don't get the back end sideways and let off else highside as I'm sure you know.
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I was on both brakes hard right before I hit a deer. You could tell by the marks on the road that I had either one or both brakes locked up momentarily several times but mostly I was braking hard enough to leave a little rubber. Even the cop and an EMT (both who ride) made comments about the short shiny spots along the skid. They asked if I had ABS, I don't.
I know when I brake that hard in my truck with ABS, it mostly just keeps rolling to a nice controlled gradual stop. Stopping distance with ABS is better than an all out locked up skid but IMO not as short as possible.
I know when I brake that hard in my truck with ABS, it mostly just keeps rolling to a nice controlled gradual stop. Stopping distance with ABS is better than an all out locked up skid but IMO not as short as possible.
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I locked up rear on a interstate on a panic stop after 2 months with the new SG with Brembo brakes cause I was a dumb *** and went down.
Gotta know your brake limitations.
If you have an older bike and your used to pounding on the rear brake to stop.....DONT try that with Brembo non-abs brakes.
Gotta know your brake limitations.
If you have an older bike and your used to pounding on the rear brake to stop.....DONT try that with Brembo non-abs brakes.
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I'm not against ABS, in fact, I believe it probably makes it a bit safer under most circumstances. It's those few times it gets weird that would worry me. Have a buddy who loved it when he got it, but went to stop fast on a "washboard" surface at an intersection. He said it was almost like the brakes weren't sure what to do, bouncing on the washboard made the ABS think the tire was locking up during the bounce, it probably was for split seconds in the air. He got stopped but said it was the strangest thing he had ever felt in all his years of riding. I don't like it in my truck, pretty sure I don't want it yet on my bike, I like trusting me.
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Consider this a second BS penalty flag on the play. Sheer nonsense. Some folks will always oppose new technology. There are no "non-racing" on-road motorcycling circumstances where it would have been better to have a non-abs bike. That being said, with lot's of riding experience you should be able to avoid the vast majority of instances where abs would have been a benefit.
Far, far better to have abs brakes and not need them than to need them and not have them.