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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 07:24 AM
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First off let me say I made a rookie mistake and ark-ed the hot starter wire against a heat shield (very briefly) with a wrench. I forgot to disconnect the battery. Now the starter won't turn over, not even a click. I checked all the fuses (including the 40 amp main one) and relays and all are ok. I disconnected the battery for about an hour to reset the alarm and still nothing. Anybody have any ideas on where I should look next?
 
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 07:38 AM
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need a little more info about what model bike?
 
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 08:10 AM
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You may have fried the battery. Do you have any power anywhere, lights? If you have a voltmeter check the battery voltage. If you have a battery charger try charging the battery.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 09:09 AM
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I would probably check to make sure I had power to the starter as already suggested, then then I would loosen and re tighten the connections on the starter. On other equipment when I did something similar, the arcin' would mess with the connections sometimes. Just needed to wiggle the connections abit and then re-tighten.

I can't imagine a brief arc would toast the starter....but, I'm sure I'm not the only unlucky one around here.

Good luck!
 
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 09:57 AM
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It's a 2007 SEUC. Everything lights up when the ignition is turned on. All fuses and relays are good. I am going to try jumping the starter and see if I fried it. You would not think so but with all the fuses being ok I'm not sure what else could be wrong.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 10:05 AM
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Did you just look at the fuses or actually test the fuses with a tester? Then there's the service bulletin on 2007 starter issues.
 

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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 10:20 AM
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Arcing to the starter would not toast the starter. It would cause damage upstream (toward the battery). Check to see if you've got 12 volts to the starter. If you have, try to start it while someone is watching the 12 volts at the starter. It's possible to have the no load 12 volts there, but it disappears when you put a load on it (try to start it).

If you don't have the 12 volts at the starter, work back toward the battery.

If you have 12 volts at the starter and it doesn't go away when you try to start it, it's the connection at the starter.

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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by rkoivisto
Arcing to the starter would not toast the starter. It would cause damage upstream (toward the battery). Check to see if you've got 12 volts to the starter. If you have, try to start it while someone is watching the 12 volts at the starter. It's possible to have the no load 12 volts there, but it disappears when you put a load on it (try to start it).

If you don't have the 12 volts at the starter, work back toward the battery.

If you have 12 volts at the starter and it doesn't go away when you try to start it, it's the connection at the starter.

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I ran a jump wire from the hot post on the starter to the connection on the bottom of the starter and it started fine. So I must have a problem between the maxi fuse and the starter switch, right. I switched the brake relay and starter relay (they are the same) and that is not the problem. I changed the ignition and battery 15 amp fuses and they are good also.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 12:49 PM
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Take a 12v tester and test each fuse.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2010 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by dnewman007
I ran a jump wire from the hot post on the starter to the connection on the bottom of the starter and it started fine. So I must have a problem between the maxi fuse and the starter switch, right. I switched the brake relay and starter relay (they are the same) and that is not the problem. I changed the ignition and battery 15 amp fuses and they are good also.

Can you hear the relay click when you push the starter button? if you can the problem is after the relay, if not the problem is before. Is it in gear or the run switch off, I have had both of these problems.
 
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