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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 11:45 AM
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Cam.

Toss the stock EPA cam and live happily ever after.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 12:22 PM
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1.Avoid the dealer stage one download,
2. carry around a cooler of ice in a saddlebag and put some ice in your shorts when it's too hot..
 
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Texas Fat Boy
I forgot, you can remove just the vents on your lowers. It's amazing how much more air that lets through. I do that in the summer.
Yeah but it's also amazing how much more water that lets through too. <g>
 
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike T
Start with a stage 1. Free flowing mufflers,A/C and a tune. It's running way to lean from the factory.
+1 - once I added these to my ride I noticed a BIG change in temps.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 02:36 PM
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Unfortunately it’s not just as simple as a top 5 list. You need to assess all the variables surrounding “your” operating conditions and go from there. There is no particular order, that’s the beauty of this game, no rules. I don’t think the “stage 1” exhaust and air cleaner themselves do much, but most folks tune to the rich side after doing the stage 1. So I think it would be more accurate to say tuning rich, rather than stage 1 helps cooling. I think I saw elsewhere that you recently added an oil temp gauge, so obviously now you are “aware” of just how hot she gets. Is your concern primarily for the health of your motor or rider comfort, because that will dictate the direction you take? Anything you do to cool your motor has second and third order effects and considerations. Here is my list of things to reduce heat in no particular order; tuning/fuel enrichment, oil cooling, fan assisted oil cooling, fan assisted air cooling, scoop/ducting, diamond cut heads/jugs, engine internal ceramic coatings, friction reduction coatings, exhaust wrap/coating, under seat insulation, oil type/brand, cams, additional oil capacity, oil pump, gearing, riding style, mid-frame deflectors, tighter squish band. I may have missed some but I’m in a hurry, any of these will reduce heat. You only have to decide which ones you can afford, tolerate the appearance, accept limitations of alternate accessories in conjunction, or any other associated considerations. Bang for buck and appearance, I favor the Jagg 10 row low-mount. Define your specific cooling goals then look for a suitable solution.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike T
Start with a stage 1. Free flowing mufflers,A/C and a tune. It's running way to lean from the factory.
+1

Made a big difference.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by fabrik8r
Unfortunately it’s not just as simple as a top 5 list. You need to assess all the variables surrounding “your” operating conditions and go from there. There is no particular order, that’s the beauty of this game, no rules. I don’t think the “stage 1” exhaust and air cleaner themselves do much, but most folks tune to the rich side after doing the stage 1. So I think it would be more accurate to say tuning rich, rather than stage 1 helps cooling. I think I saw elsewhere that you recently added an oil temp gauge, so obviously now you are “aware” of just how hot she gets. Is your concern primarily for the health of your motor or rider comfort, because that will dictate the direction you take? Anything you do to cool your motor has second and third order effects and considerations. Here is my list of things to reduce heat in no particular order; tuning/fuel enrichment, oil cooling, fan assisted oil cooling, fan assisted air cooling, scoop/ducting, diamond cut heads/jugs, engine internal ceramic coatings, friction reduction coatings, exhaust wrap/coating, under seat insulation, oil type/brand, cams, additional oil capacity, oil pump, gearing, riding style, mid-frame deflectors, tighter squish band. I may have missed some but I’m in a hurry, any of these will reduce heat. You only have to decide which ones you can afford, tolerate the appearance, accept limitations of alternate accessories in conjunction, or any other associated considerations. Bang for buck and appearance, I favor the Jagg 10 row low-mount. Define your specific cooling goals then look for a suitable solution.
Very well said.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 03:09 PM
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Not too much words, the highest priority is remove the catalytic converter, and Fuelmoto has been providing a line of excellent products, and service.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by jackhis
Not too much words, the highest priority is remove the catalytic converter, and Fuelmoto has been providing a line of excellent products, and service.
Yes, except that the 2009 Ultra doesn't have a catalytic converter, unless it's a California model. <g>
+1 on Fuelmoto, I have a PCV and it made a big difference heat wise, well not the PCV itself but the richer map I run with it.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 03:37 PM
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LOL, we have another who thinks a 49 state '09 has a catalytic converter.

Badknees, your limited came with a cooler....the standard ultras do not and still don't.

Sandcrab, the reason the new bikes run so hot is because of the lean A/F ratio to make EPA mandates. Most remedies posted, such a oil coolers, fans, vents, etc, deal with the effects of that, not the reason it's running hot. Deal with the A/F ratio first, and the bike will cool down dramatically, and you may find you don't need the other items.

Also, free flowing air cleaners will make the bike run even leaner, not richer, but the factory Engine Management system on your bike will adjust the mixture automatically back to the stock settings, so again, the A/F ratio is what you logically have to deal with first.
 

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