S&S T-111 first impressions
#21
Apologies for starting up an old thread, but I'm thinking about this new S&S Motor for my 01 Electra glide and I'm trying to find out as much information as I can about this motor. Thanks in advance any experiences with this motor pro and con would be greatly appreciated.
#22
Hi from the UK and welcome to HDF. If you use the 'Search' in the blue bar above and enter 't111' you will find about thirty threads. S&S makes an Evo version the V111 and a TC version the T111. They are successors to the V107T I have owned for five years now and mine is just great! Been all round Europe on it and it has a flat torque curve and approx 100 HP/TQ.
#23
I've had mine in for a year now and other than the valve spring issue its been awesome. For me it was the best bang for my buck, I put a 34T trans pulley on for a poor mans overdrive so I miss out a bit on my bottom end, but top end she absolutely pulls like a freight train.
I like to cruise and wanted power to pass on demand, got that in spades.
I like to cruise and wanted power to pass on demand, got that in spades.
#24
I've had mine in for a year now and other than the valve spring issue its been awesome. For me it was the best bang for my buck, I put a 34T trans pulley on for a poor mans overdrive so I miss out a bit on my bottom end, but top end she absolutely pulls like a freight train.
I like to cruise and wanted power to pass on demand, got that in spades.
I like to cruise and wanted power to pass on demand, got that in spades.
#25
I have since got it built to a 124 by star racing but the 111 was very impressive - the torque was superb, the motor would pull and pull - never ran hot, temps never got to 200 -- could ride with shorts on; I do think the 585 cam may need a little more compression for it to be a screamer but that may take away from its very streetable manners -- for the price and three year warranty I don't think you can get a better crate motor.
Apologies for starting up an old thread, but I'm thinking about this new S&S Motor for my 01 Electra glide and I'm trying to find out as much information as I can about this motor. Thanks in advance any experiences with this motor pro and con would be greatly appreciated.
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lespaul6 (11-13-2021)
#26
I have since got it built to a 124 by star racing but the 111 was very impressive - the torque was superb, the motor would pull and pull - never ran hot, temps never got to 200 -- could ride with shorts on; I do think the 585 cam may need a little more compression for it to be a screamer but that may take away from its very streetable manners -- for the price and three year warranty I don't think you can get a better crate motor.
#27
as guys with 6 speeds. I think you will be more than happy with the motor!
The easy start cams are nice as well, you don't have to worry about compression releases. My starter clutch went and I was able to push start it myself, that's how easy start they are.
Good Luck
#28
I run my 107 with stock gearing and recommend you do the same with your 111. If you ride 2-up you will struggle climbing Alpine hairpins with a higher first gear! These engines run to higher rpms than stock Harley motors and do not need to be geared up. How you gonna use your new 6,500rpm?! Raising gearing wastes some of the improved torque your new engine brings to the party.
#29
I run my 107 with stock gearing and recommend you do the same with your 111. If you ride 2-up you will struggle climbing Alpine hairpins with a higher first gear! These engines run to higher rpms than stock Harley motors and do not need to be geared up. How you gonna use your new 6,500rpm?! Raising gearing wastes some of the improved torque your new engine brings to the party.
#30
That's interesting I've always felt like my 95 inch ultra needed a sixth gear a ride to a once in awhile but my wife only weighs 100 pounds I can hardly tell she's back there. Am always reaching for another gear on the highway though, my motors built has about 100 horsepower 100ft pounds of torque it has about 45,000 miles on it the bottom end and that is problem is it as 10.5 compression and I'm having trouble running it on pump gas. S&S tells me with the smart ignition on the T111 I won't have a problem anymore with gas and still have the power that I'm looking for.
Gearing is one of the most misunderstood things in the Harley world and I wish there was an easy way to change that. On the one hand many of us look for more power and torque, yet on the other hand raising the gearing reduces the benefit. I can't get my head around that! Having installed my 107" I kept stock gearing, to get the most out of my investment.
As a bonus, our S&S engines will rev 1,000rpm higher than stock Harley engines, so are happy as can be, spinning a bit faster. I reckon the sweet spot for my 107", now that it is well and truly run in, is between 2,500 and 4,500rpm. In fact fully loaded it will roll on from around 1,500rpm in top, on a friendly gradient.
I also have the IST smart ignition. My 3 year warranty passed by without needing to use it, I am pleased to report. We have travelled in Eastern Europe in recent years, behind the old Iron Curtain, so the protection that IST provides is very welcome. Also nice to be able to charge down German autobahns, with no speed restrictions!