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Old 02-15-2012, 07:10 AM
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I have the 2-2A's or 12 1/8" shock with progressive wound spring. I'm quite satisfied with their performance and find them easy to adjust. I should point out the the new Ohlins #2 do not have a ramp adjustement system as was alluded to earlier. They have a adjusting collar that is screwed up or down depending on how much preload you want.

If you are not vertically challenged, like me then go with the Ohlins #2's that are 13" long and give you the most "shock stroke" matched to a spring that has a pretty long "spring stoke" so that with the combination of those you will have sufficient pre-load adjustment to compensate for 2up riding.

Listen to what Howard is suggesting to you. He really has no vested interest in which model shock you decided to buy. His vested interest is making sure he delivers a set of Ohlins that will perform for you based on your riding style and needs.
 
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Old 02-15-2012, 07:18 AM
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I happen to have a set of 2-3"s for sale. (Wife's been without a job for 8 months, need to liquidate some non-essential assets). They work perfectly, (they are the long travel versions - 13 1/4"). I'll take $400.00, and I'll pay shipping to CONUS. Anyone interested please use my regular email tsw555@verizon.net (I don't get on the forum everyday). Thanks.......
 
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Old 02-15-2012, 09:59 AM
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Fast harley, will the 6's reservoir mount cleanly hidden behind the bags on an 09 streetglide or will the reservoir have to be visible?
 
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Old 02-15-2012, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by FastHarley
In all due respect but the #3 series comes with a check valve in the compression side of the of the needle valve. This prohibits oil from bypassing the the piston on the compression stroke through the one way needle valve. The high end of the stroke is also a bit harsh with a closed end needle valve. What you read on someones site is not necessary what you get with me. That is what I do and this is what you get without asking.

The reason why the #3 series shocks I sell (I do not wish to get into this too deep because it is my own modification and industrial secret) have an adjustable compression that works. Ohlins USA knew what I was doing beforehand because I told them how we machine this modification thus eliminating all warranty issues for my customers. All #3 family shocks I built has this modification.

Ohlins USA is now purchasing the shocks with this new modification directly from Ohlins in Sweden. The shocks have a different identification number than before (HD-909), the shocks that were purchased directly from Ohlins through other dealers in the next few weeks will have this one upgrade. That is only one modification I have done.

The reason why the shocks I sell to my customers work so well is because I hand build every one for each individual customer. I spent my time learning how shocks work by working with the very best suspension technicians in the world. All information is gathered at the track with real riders who actually know how to ride a bike and how a motorcycle should feel, and not by some no nothing guy bouncing down the road. This information is than converted to what would benefit a Harley rider. Why do you think that Ohlins only sold a few shocks (less than 10/year) before I started working with them? They just did not work very well and received poor reviews. Read and know your history. This all happened here on HDF in front of your own eyes. I started working with a shock company called Penske and many here posted dumb *** poser crap like why would anyone ever purchase a suspension up-grade for $1,000? Now you fa*ot posers, there are some of us who actually ride their bike and demand performance excellence. You f*gs know who you are.

The difference between me is that I always answer my phone 7 days a week, insist that you call me for installation, and never sell a shock in the box but custom build it, I am an authorized and factory trained Ohlins service center, and never quit pushing the envelope in chase of the holey grail of suspension perfection. When the shocks are worn out you can send them back and we will rebuild them, me, not someone you do not know. You can also ride in (providing I have the rebuild parts in stock) and I do the job in front of you. I am not a big box store or fired Circuit City employee answering the phone.

To answer your question, yes, a #3 family will ride smoother than a #2 due to there internal parts. They are not the same. If a #2 were the only shock available, it far out performs all of the other HD type equipment either OEM or aftermarket sold by others and I am here all of the time to prove it to anyone who wishes to challenge this claim. All is well until you than ride a #3 shock and the difference is realized. A shock is a tool and the right tool should always be selected.

The #5 have a different compression valve than the other shocks and are an upgrade in comparison to the #3.

The #6 has very expensive compression valving in the ressy and the configuration is nothing like any of the other shocks. Metering oil is what controls the shock movement. The ride on the #6 is no way compared with the aforementioned shocks, it is far superior. The internal workings of the #6 differences are not as described and the internal ressy valve was developed for F-1 and therefor not described or divulged to others outside of the Ohlins personal except in general terms. There is a reason why people who have them would not part with them. If you just purchased a #6 without trying and comparing against other shocks, you would think that all shocks work like a #6. They do not.

There you have it.
I was passing on what info I have learned and the #3 sweep valve info was NOT passed on from any other site. I spoke directly with an Ohlins rep and that was what he told me. Your mods may be unfamiliar to him. You are right I should be getting info on your shocks from you. I also saw that Ohlins had listed those HD shocks(the ones you are speaking of) being available directly from them(or thru their dealer network) and then that info seemed to disappear. As I stated previously I have complete faith in the Ohlins company and your valving fit my riding style perfectly. Probably why I never needed to contact you once I received the shocks. I hope you get to feeling better and I hope I can get down to your neck of the woods soon and try those #6's!!
 

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Old 02-15-2012, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by qtrracer
I was passing on what info I have learned and the #3 sweep valve info was NOT passed on from any other site. I spoke directly with an Ohlins rep and that was what he told me. Your mods may be unfamiliar to him. You are right I should be getting info on your shocks from you. I also saw that Ohlins had listed those HD shocks(the ones you are speaking of) being available directly from them(or thru their dealer network) and then that info seemed to disappear. As I stated previously I have complete faith in the Ohlins company and your valving fit my riding style perfectly. Probably why I never needed to contact you once I received the shocks. I hope you get to feeling better and I hope I can get down to your neck of the woods soon and try those #6's!!
To any one reading this, qtrracer has been a great source of real information on all fronts concerning motorcycles. Please be advised that he is considered a friend and no reference should be assumed. This is not the first time that I have said this and we write in many forms.

The staff or workers at Ohlins USA do not ride a Harley, none. I keep my information between only one person up there and do not share what I do with anyone else. There is no reason why I would put in my money, experience, and knowledge and give it away to anyone. My knowledge is what keeps the food in my family's mouth and pays my taxes as well as the sponsorship on this site which is not free or cheep. My efforts are mine alone and when you purchase a product from me, you are paying for my research & development, customer service, and life experience of actually riding a Harley and living the life.

I do not play golf or act in plays during my time off. I think motorcycles. For fun I work on friends bikes doing stuff I do not normally do. I am not a big box company and discourage bankers, bank fees, and the general establishment as a whole. I pass all of that savings on to the end user, you. When I can get away, I ride a motorcycle.

The above was mostly not aimed at qtrracer of course but a chance to voice my mission statement and what I do.

I am currently manufacturing (in process) new needle valves for the 30mm kits in racing bikes which will far outperform the Ohlins needle valve. This was already tested yesterday in real life and will be tested hopefully at the track with many people with different riding skills. Point being, I love to improve the performance of motorcycles my own way and everyone is subject to modification no matter who you are. When I am dead is when I will stop kicking over the card table for change.
 
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Old 02-15-2012, 04:01 PM
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Just got off the phone with Howard.
I will be ordering a set of 3-3s as soon as Howard sends me the build sheet to fill out!
I decided that I only have one chance to do this right. Not saying that 2 series shocks aren't good, but simply that 3 series are better. I can't take a Mulligan if I make the wrong choice.

Thanks to everyone for your opinions and info...
 
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Old 02-29-2012, 04:04 PM
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Lots of great info here and now 99% sure I'll go with the 3-3s. The only 1% doubt I have is going for the #6, but I honestly don't think I'll utilize the full value of them other than the "wow" factor when my bags come off.
 
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Old 02-29-2012, 04:44 PM
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When you fit your #3s you will realise you will want better front forks and beg Howard for a set with his Ohlins cartridges. Then you'll realise you should have bought #6s.....

Just sayin'!
 
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Old 02-29-2012, 05:21 PM
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I bought the 2-3s from Howard for a 2010 Road Glide. The improvement in handling and comfort was so substantial that I find myself wondering how much better the 3s could be. Never mind the 6s. I am happy with the the 2s, they are worth every penny. But I sometimes second guess if I should have spent a bit more.
If cost is a concern, I'd run the 2s on the back and apply the savings to upgrading front suspension. Still patiently waiting for Howards front cartridge upgrade.
 
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Just put Howard's #3-3 on my SG. His work, instructions and information is top notch. Now if it would warm up just a bit so I can ride. I went with the 3s over the 2s. Also installed the longer versions on my SG. Quality product

as mentioned above.. patiently waiting on front fork kit...
 


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