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Old Jul 18, 2013 | 10:56 PM
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I try to stay away from all the cagers but its usually inevitable that ill get jammed in. now with people crowding me and riding my *** I usually keep a bag of pennies on me. its terrible that they get so close to me when I am counting my change and accidently drop it right behind me.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2013 | 02:31 AM
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Think I'm gonna make a holster for a ball peen hammer that I can get to and put a nice dent into the side of the car with. "Yes, Sir, officer. I check the air in my tires just like truckers do."
 
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Old Jul 19, 2013 | 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by harleyguy5571
I made the same mistake when I first started riding. You have to protect your lane at all times.
Completely agree ... except I take it bit further and say you MUST own your lane!! If you act passive, they'll walk all over you.

When doing this ... you must remain extremely aware of your surroundings though and always be prepared for escape / evasive routes.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2013 | 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by tader
I try to stay away from all the cagers but its usually inevitable that ill get jammed in. now with people crowding me and riding my *** I usually keep a bag of pennies on me. its terrible that they get so close to me when I am counting my change and accidently drop it right behind me.
This isn't a technique I'd practice and it might get you seriously hurt if not killed. When I notice someone riding my **** ... I'll tap my brake one time and they usually back off. If they don't then I'll find a safe place to pull over and let them go by. I'm not a slow poke either, I usually take 10 ....

One time in doing so I notice they attempted to pull in behind me, only thing was I wasn't pulling into an occupied area by other people. So I kept going again and found a busy gas station to pull into. This time they kept going. Don't get me wrong, I always carry concealed but you should avoid trouble at all costs. It's just not worth it now-a-days.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2013 | 04:01 AM
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Yes the Illinois motorcycle rules of the road handbook states to ride in the middle of the lane, but, the person who made the book doesn't ride a motorcycle.

In motorcycle safety class we were told to not ride in the middle of the lane because that is where most of the leaking occurs from cars and therefore is the most slick part of the road.

I taught my daughter to not ride in the middle for that reason. When she took her written test she got that question wrong and being my daughter she argued that point with the people at the DMV and that's when they admitted that the test and rules were made up by someone who doesn't ride.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2013 | 05:38 AM
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Most people who live in the U.P. aren't in that big of a hurry.
I'm guessing those reckless vehicles were vacationing trolls. :-)
 
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Old Jul 19, 2013 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Firewoman
Yes the Illinois motorcycle rules of the road handbook states to ride in the middle of the lane, but, the person who made the book doesn't ride a motorcycle.

In motorcycle safety class we were told to not ride in the middle of the lane because that is where most of the leaking occurs from cars and therefore is the most slick part of the road.

I taught my daughter to not ride in the middle for that reason. When she took her written test she got that question wrong and being my daughter she argued that point with the people at the DMV and that's when they admitted that the test and rules were made up by someone who doesn't ride.
are you kidding me? how would they know who writes the rules. Why do you think there is abate? you don't think they have input on things like that or the ama.i don't believe that for a second. I wouldn't believe everything you learned in a motorcycle safety course either. they tell people to ride the top of a curve. why would you ride the top of a curve? let me tell ya something else. this leaking occurring in the middle of the lane is bs. you know what asphalt is made of? OIL you know what happens on really hot days when that asphalt get hot? it gets soft again to a point and the oil can come back up.
The only time this non scence of oil on a lane matters is when its raining. you go ride down a road that was just primed to be paved and you will not slip slide or any other variation of that. asphalt does not hold oil. other then they oil used to lay it. 99.9% chance once it rains it gets washed off into the ditch. I know this from 20 years of experience of nothing but road work.

But I don't want to get off topic. point is that it does infact state in the manual to be in the center of the lane so that the person infront of you can see you in the rearview mirror and to prevent lane sharing. and this is exactly what happened in this case. and my entire point is as some other have said themselves. YOU HAVE TO PROTECT YOUR LANE. and by using this method is exactly what you will be doing and will prevent a cager from doing what happened to the op. while the cager should have known better obviously they didn't.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2013 | 07:08 AM
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"They" say, Lead on the left. I usually lead.
I always ride left of center away from the oily center and where the driver in front of me can clearly see me in his rear view. People oncoming can see me AND my Bike too I figure and I don't look like just a black helmet sitting atop a car.

That said, I'm probably totally wrong to ride left of center in about 20 books, manuals, and in the opinion of way smarter dudes that have been riding since way back on a Honda 23-a-CC or something moped turbo special edition in 1956. Man I really Don't care.

What I do care about is lunch. What is for lunch because I am already hungry (again) dang it. Is it too late for second breakfast?

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Old Jul 19, 2013 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by tader
I try to stay away from all the cagers but its usually inevitable that ill get jammed in. now with people crowding me and riding my *** I usually keep a bag of pennies on me. its terrible that they get so close to me when I am counting my change and accidently drop it right behind me.
Yeah...sometimes i feel like that too, but then I'm thinking of how this could easily escalate into something that I'm not prepared for on two wheels.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2013 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by mainboom150
are you kidding me? how would they know who writes the rules. Why do you think there is abate? you don't think they have input on things like that or the ama.i don't believe that for a second. I wouldn't believe everything you learned in a motorcycle safety course either. they tell people to ride the top of a curve. why would you ride the top of a curve? let me tell ya something else. this leaking occurring in the middle of the lane is bs. you know what asphalt is made of? OIL you know what happens on really hot days when that asphalt get hot? it gets soft again to a point and the oil can come back up.
The only time this non scence of oil on a lane matters is when its raining. you go ride down a road that was just primed to be paved and you will not slip slide or any other variation of that. asphalt does not hold oil. other then they oil used to lay it. 99.9% chance once it rains it gets washed off into the ditch. I know this from 20 years of experience of nothing but road work.

But I don't want to get off topic. point is that it does infact state in the manual to be in the center of the lane so that the person infront of you can see you in the rearview mirror and to prevent lane sharing. and this is exactly what happened in this case. and my entire point is as some other have said themselves. YOU HAVE TO PROTECT YOUR LANE. and by using this method is exactly what you will be doing and will prevent a cager from doing what happened to the op. while the cager should have known better obviously they didn't.


No need to get your knickers in a knot, I'm just telling you as it actually happened. The DMV employees have told others that the person who makes the motorcycle test doesn't ride. I stay off the center of the road, I've never had anyone else try to lane share.

Riddle me this, if a group of bikes is riding all down the center of the road, how is that a proper stagger?
 
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