missing shifts (false neutral)
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hahahahaha
if nothing else you guys always cheer me up
everything's kosher if I back off on shifts, but what fun is that? (being said, the rare occasion it DOESNT miss on a WOT 1/2/3...the adrenaline rush is freaking amazing)
as for taming the exhaust....not sure its possible. been waiting to hear back from a UK based company about a new/different baffle material they're developing (Acousti-Fil). nifty idea, but at the time i contacted them, they weren't doing anything "small"....only large *IE 1000+ pieces* orders.
went for a stroll with Tee&Vee, and keeping ~20-30' behind him, barreling down the highway @ 75-80mph, he could still hear my bike over his.
for now, I've been going with earplugs and/or full face lol
if nothing else you guys always cheer me up
everything's kosher if I back off on shifts, but what fun is that? (being said, the rare occasion it DOESNT miss on a WOT 1/2/3...the adrenaline rush is freaking amazing)
as for taming the exhaust....not sure its possible. been waiting to hear back from a UK based company about a new/different baffle material they're developing (Acousti-Fil). nifty idea, but at the time i contacted them, they weren't doing anything "small"....only large *IE 1000+ pieces* orders.
went for a stroll with Tee&Vee, and keeping ~20-30' behind him, barreling down the highway @ 75-80mph, he could still hear my bike over his.
for now, I've been going with earplugs and/or full face lol
To shift the way you want to you need an air shifter, you are supposed to back off the throttle to change gear on the stock tranny, its designed for a 65HP cruiser with a fat chick on the back...it ain't a drag box....stop abusing it and either change how you ride or change the tranny setup before you end up with a large hole between the motor and the swing arm .....and remember......the tranny case holds the swing arm on!!!
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To shift the way you want to you need an air shifter, you are supposed to back off the throttle to change gear on the stock tranny, its designed for a 65HP cruiser with a fat chick on the back...it ain't a drag box....stop abusing it and either change how you ride or change the tranny setup before you end up with a large hole between the motor and the swing arm .....and remember......the tranny case holds the swing arm on!!!
i'm not QUITE at the point of needing an air shifter...although if i went that route the Pingel electric rig is pretty nifty
let me rephrase....I do "let off" (I'm not clutchless shifting @ 6700rpm and letting it bounce the limiter between gears). when I say I have to let off, i mean a solid second or so to let the revs REALLY fall (like 4000rpm) before it'll hit the next gear smoothly. Ive never had this issue before (and my riding habits havent changed much...if anything im more tame now cause i know what it'll do when it gets out of hand)....but @ 95lb/ft of torque on the 80"....I didnt have this issue. perhaps ive just found the mechanical limit of the shift drum/forks/pawl/etc....but then the sicillian in me comes out and i say "f*** that this thing aint beating me"
had a chat with Baker. depends on winter OT/budget...but a DD5 with a stretched out 1st/2nd and an OD (.88 or .86 i forget now) would be REAL fun...especially coupled with their ignition kill drum that I could wire into my spare toggle switch on the nacelle.
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we do two mods in this issue -
1 - the baker drum is the one and the baker lever as well with the fork type return spring
2 - the right side door has 2 small bearings and those bearings have a 3 ball contact // and in big power units they walk around, and this also causes a shift issue - sooo we replace them with 5 ball contact bearings, its a multi piece bearing and they dont move once installed as its also radial load type bearing
1 - the baker drum is the one and the baker lever as well with the fork type return spring
2 - the right side door has 2 small bearings and those bearings have a 3 ball contact // and in big power units they walk around, and this also causes a shift issue - sooo we replace them with 5 ball contact bearings, its a multi piece bearing and they dont move once installed as its also radial load type bearing
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we do two mods in this issue -
1 - the baker drum is the one and the baker lever as well with the fork type return spring
2 - the right side door has 2 small bearings and those bearings have a 3 ball contact // and in big power units they walk around, and this also causes a shift issue - sooo we replace them with 5 ball contact bearings, its a multi piece bearing and they dont move once installed as its also radial load type bearing
1 - the baker drum is the one and the baker lever as well with the fork type return spring
2 - the right side door has 2 small bearings and those bearings have a 3 ball contact // and in big power units they walk around, and this also causes a shift issue - sooo we replace them with 5 ball contact bearings, its a multi piece bearing and they dont move once installed as its also radial load type bearing
the trap door has already been replaced with the later (mines from an 05 i think) twin cam trap door, complete with MUCH larger shaft bearings (just guessing by looking at them, 25-30% larger)
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^^ yup. thats the trap door I have (the later twin-cam version with the larger bearings)
so i should be set there. now to price out the baker drum/pawl. looks like I can do that stuff from the top cap. only downside seems to be having to pull the exhaust off to get the tranny door off. oh well, could be worse (unless I'm completely mistaken and the inner primary has to come off too...that'd suck).
so i should be set there. now to price out the baker drum/pawl. looks like I can do that stuff from the top cap. only downside seems to be having to pull the exhaust off to get the tranny door off. oh well, could be worse (unless I'm completely mistaken and the inner primary has to come off too...that'd suck).
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Jasper, What are you using to lube your tranny?
Not to start an argument on this but ... I was having the best luck using 75W140 and just put Formula back in recently with the last change. I'm now having this very same issue (again) when launching my bagger through the gears with shifting at around 5K -5.2K rpms.
I'm going back to gear lube!
BTW I'm so happy with the changes I've made this year. I lift the front end off the ground, even 2 up, going into second. What a rush for such a big hog.
Not to start an argument on this but ... I was having the best luck using 75W140 and just put Formula back in recently with the last change. I'm now having this very same issue (again) when launching my bagger through the gears with shifting at around 5K -5.2K rpms.
I'm going back to gear lube!
BTW I'm so happy with the changes I've made this year. I lift the front end off the ground, even 2 up, going into second. What a rush for such a big hog.
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