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Old Mar 24, 2019 | 07:44 AM
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This is what I'm working with;

Sony and XAV AX100 HU
Arc amp 600.4
Moto 602's in fairing and lowers ( 2 sets)

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NVX VAD10004
JL c2 690xt in the bags ( 2 sets)
JL c2 650 in the tour pak.

I have the Arc connected to the front RCA on the amp
And the NVX connected to the rear.

Now, my question is, can I run the 602's bridges or should I just keep them as is; each speaker is connected to its own channel. I have the amp on 2 channel stereo as well as the rear amp.

Them 602's are very bright and really don't know how to turn that down a bit.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2019 | 10:11 AM
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I would keep them wired in stereo. Stereo 4 x 150 rms ...bridged 2 x 300 watts , not gaining anything power wise and you would lose stereo separation! I would give Arc a call! Does your HU have a EQ to tone down the 602's?
 
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Old Mar 25, 2019 | 11:28 AM
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Eric are you happy with the sound of your rear speakers as they are now? If not maybe an Arc PSM DSP would be worth a shot. My fairing speakers used to be pretty bright and the PSM cleaned them up nicely. It also made it easy to run PA speakers in the lowers. Also the PSM has voltage adjustments on the signal that can come in handy.

The only downside for your setup may be that the PSM can only adjust six channels. I have eight channels but I didn't have to tweak my rears for anything other than the voltage of the signal feeding the amp so I was able to get by. I guess you could just run channels 1 and 2 to the 600.4 amp and use one EQ curve for it since all four front speakers are identical. That would free up channels 3 and 4 for your lids and 5 and 6 for your tour pak.

Just a thought...
 
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Old Mar 25, 2019 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Moto Mike
I would keep them wired in stereo. Stereo 4 x 150 rms ...bridged 2 x 300 watts , not gaining anything power wise and you would lose stereo separation! I would give Arc a call! Does your HU have a EQ to tone down the 602's?
Ok, thanks. I did leave it that way and yes The EQ works just fine. Just want to make sure I wasn't damaging anything that way.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2019 | 02:53 PM
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Eric are you happy with the sound of your rear speakers as they are now? If not maybe an Arc PSM DSP would be worth a shot. My fairing speakers used to be pretty bright and the PSM cleaned them up nicely. It also made it easy to run PA speakers in the lowers. Also the PSM has voltage adjustments on the signal that can come in handy.

The only downside for your setup may be that the PSM can only adjust six channels. I have eight channels but I didn't have to tweak my rears for anything other than the voltage of the signal feeding the amp so I was able to get by. I guess you could just run channels 1 and 2 to the 600.4 amp and use one EQ curve for it since all four front speakers are identical. That would free up channels 3 and 4 for your lids and 5 and 6 for your tour pak.

Just a thought...
Ok, thanks. I'm not sure about this but I read somewhere that when you have open RCA that could damage your amp. But I put everything back together over the weekend and it sounds really good to me. Just didn't want have to start over. I'm not understanding to voltage adjustments on the signal and what it does, but so far I'm pretty happy with it.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2019 | 07:49 AM
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I'm not understanding to voltage adjustments on the signal and what it does, but so far I'm pretty happy with it.
Shoot if it sounds good to you stick with it. I only mention the voltage adjustment because some amps like a little stronger signal than others. I know the Arc is not one of them but I have never tinkered with the NVX. There is something to be said for keeping things simple.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2019 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoyt 1911A1
Shoot if it sounds good to you stick with it. I only mention the voltage adjustment because some amps like a little stronger signal than others. I know the Arc is not one of them but I have never tinkered with the NVX. There is something to be said for keeping things simple.
This is true. I'm not sure if I could every use a DSP to it full potential because i'm not that knowledgeable on that stuff.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2019 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric Steward
This is true. I'm not sure if I could every use a DSP to it full potential because i'm not that knowledgeable on that stuff.
Yep sometimes keeping it simple is for the best. I’ve heard many
bikes without one and they sounded damn good. Sometimes some of us get off track on here and want to throw around
DSP likes it’s something everyone needs which in some cases it’s not what one needs. Evolve at your own pace and you
will be happier in the end.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2019 | 11:28 AM
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Yeah, but once you go DSP, you can't go back.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2019 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by arlington
Yeah, but once you go DSP, you can't go back.
I agree with that 💯. There just some that push the DSP instantly in every post they make and my point is this
just because you have one doesn’t mean others want or need. Also some people have no idea what a DSP is and
just get confused when it’s mentioned. I have one and love it but for someone just trying to figure out their set up especially
fairing only I would not be bringing up a DSP in the conversation. Just saying.
 
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