Bolting on exhaust
#1
09-25-2014, 03:01 AM
#4
09-25-2014, 08:40 AM
Can you put on freer flowing mufflers and not do a tune? Sure!
Will your engine run leaner and hotter than it did stock? Yes.
Will you damage your engine? Probably not.
Will you get louder, and be able to feel some increase in power? Yes.
Will you get all the torque and horsepower increase that you just paid for? No.
#5
09-25-2014, 11:04 AM
Depends on what you mean by "legit".
Can you put on freer flowing mufflers and not do a tune? Sure!
Will your engine run leaner and hotter than it did stock? Yes.
Will you damage your engine? Probably not.
Will you get louder, and be able to feel some increase in power? Yes.
Will you get all the torque and horsepower increase that you just paid for? No.
Can you put on freer flowing mufflers and not do a tune? Sure!
Will your engine run leaner and hotter than it did stock? Yes.
Will you damage your engine? Probably not.
Will you get louder, and be able to feel some increase in power? Yes.
Will you get all the torque and horsepower increase that you just paid for? No.
#6
09-25-2014, 11:21 AM
Glad to help.
If all you do is mufflers, and you ride the bike reasonably gently, without hammering it every time you go out, it's highly unlikely you would damage anything. You just won't get the performance gains without the tune that you would get with the tune.
Now, if you did both mufflers and air cleaner, and you ride the bike hard, then there is a pretty high risk that you'd get enough heat to damage something, probably a piston.
My personal opinion is if you're going to spend the money on parts intended to improve performance, then why not tune the bike to take advantage of the potential?
Here's a thought: My bike is, mechanically, bone stock. I spent the money for a race tuner and had it tuned. All I was interested in was making the bike run as well as the engineers knew it could run, without the EPA strangling it. I wanted it to run a little cooler, run a little richer, and I'd be happy.
Between 1,500-3,000 rpm I got dyno measured 4-5 ft-lb of torque, and 2 hp. The difference in pull off the line is dramatic. Bone stock, with a tune.
If all you do is mufflers, and you ride the bike reasonably gently, without hammering it every time you go out, it's highly unlikely you would damage anything. You just won't get the performance gains without the tune that you would get with the tune.
Now, if you did both mufflers and air cleaner, and you ride the bike hard, then there is a pretty high risk that you'd get enough heat to damage something, probably a piston.
My personal opinion is if you're going to spend the money on parts intended to improve performance, then why not tune the bike to take advantage of the potential?
Here's a thought: My bike is, mechanically, bone stock. I spent the money for a race tuner and had it tuned. All I was interested in was making the bike run as well as the engineers knew it could run, without the EPA strangling it. I wanted it to run a little cooler, run a little richer, and I'd be happy.
Between 1,500-3,000 rpm I got dyno measured 4-5 ft-lb of torque, and 2 hp. The difference in pull off the line is dramatic. Bone stock, with a tune.
#7
09-25-2014, 11:26 AM
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#8
09-25-2014, 10:52 PM
Glad to help.
If all you do is mufflers, and you ride the bike reasonably gently, without hammering it every time you go out, it's highly unlikely you would damage anything. You just won't get the performance gains without the tune that you would get with the tune.
Now, if you did both mufflers and air cleaner, and you ride the bike hard, then there is a pretty high risk that you'd get enough heat to damage something, probably a piston.
My personal opinion is if you're going to spend the money on parts intended to improve performance, then why not tune the bike to take advantage of the potential?
Here's a thought: My bike is, mechanically, bone stock. I spent the money for a race tuner and had it tuned. All I was interested in was making the bike run as well as the engineers knew it could run, without the EPA strangling it. I wanted it to run a little cooler, run a little richer, and I'd be happy.
Between 1,500-3,000 rpm I got dyno measured 4-5 ft-lb of torque, and 2 hp. The difference in pull off the line is dramatic. Bone stock, with a tune.
If all you do is mufflers, and you ride the bike reasonably gently, without hammering it every time you go out, it's highly unlikely you would damage anything. You just won't get the performance gains without the tune that you would get with the tune.
Now, if you did both mufflers and air cleaner, and you ride the bike hard, then there is a pretty high risk that you'd get enough heat to damage something, probably a piston.
My personal opinion is if you're going to spend the money on parts intended to improve performance, then why not tune the bike to take advantage of the potential?
Here's a thought: My bike is, mechanically, bone stock. I spent the money for a race tuner and had it tuned. All I was interested in was making the bike run as well as the engineers knew it could run, without the EPA strangling it. I wanted it to run a little cooler, run a little richer, and I'd be happy.
Between 1,500-3,000 rpm I got dyno measured 4-5 ft-lb of torque, and 2 hp. The difference in pull off the line is dramatic. Bone stock, with a tune.
I get that much, it's just a matter of coming up with two grand, versus buying stuff part by part and then having it tuned. If rather do a couple 500 purchases then one big 2000, you know? I have a hard time saving up that much cash. Lol.
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