Help with pipes!!!!!!!
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From: Pa
Help with pipes!!!!!!!
I have been looking and there is so much conflicting info on this subject.
All I want to do is put some VH 2-2 big radius pipes on my 2011 Fat Bob. I am new to this stuff but is it really this hard to make a harley sound like a harley?
All these tuners and running too lean? Also I totally dont trust the local dealership to do any thig right...
I dont want to damage the bike but what do you do?
Anyone done this with any success that would like to share the secret?
All I want to do is put some VH 2-2 big radius pipes on my 2011 Fat Bob. I am new to this stuff but is it really this hard to make a harley sound like a harley?
All these tuners and running too lean? Also I totally dont trust the local dealership to do any thig right...
I dont want to damage the bike but what do you do?
Anyone done this with any success that would like to share the secret?
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From: Edmonton, Alberta Canada
If your just want to change your exhaust and not your air intake I wouldn't worry about a tuner.
There is a lot of conflict on the newer bikes about if a tuner is needed or not but the way I look at it is that you have spent a lot of money on your bike why take a chance running exhaust with a high flow air intake why take the chance of running lean and damaging the motor, but if you do change both exhaust & air intake spend the money & get a good tuner
There is a lot of conflict on the newer bikes about if a tuner is needed or not but the way I look at it is that you have spent a lot of money on your bike why take a chance running exhaust with a high flow air intake why take the chance of running lean and damaging the motor, but if you do change both exhaust & air intake spend the money & get a good tuner
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I have been looking and there is so much conflicting info on this subject.
All I want to do is put some VH 2-2 big radius pipes on my 2011 Fat Bob. I am new to this stuff but is it really this hard to make a harley sound like a harley?
All these tuners and running too lean? Also I totally dont trust the local dealership to do any thig right...
I dont want to damage the bike but what do you do?
Anyone done this with any success that would like to share the secret?
All I want to do is put some VH 2-2 big radius pipes on my 2011 Fat Bob. I am new to this stuff but is it really this hard to make a harley sound like a harley?
All these tuners and running too lean? Also I totally dont trust the local dealership to do any thig right...
I dont want to damage the bike but what do you do?
Anyone done this with any success that would like to share the secret?
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They are inline resistors you add to your O2 sensor wires to trick the FI into thinking it's running too lean and adjust your fuel ration down to about 13.8 if I remember right. You can buy them on nightrider.com for about $100. They are not adjustable like a tuner would be so its a cheap band aid fix for a bike running too hot and too lean. I tried them on my bike but on my current setup they made it run too rich. Air/fuel ratio on a fuel injected engine is a finicky process to dial in right. That's why the stock fuel injection can adjust itself within a preset range but like I said before past a certain point it can no longer compensate for modifications.
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find out about xieds at nightrider.com. just changing the stock exhaust the stock EFI will be fine. You will only need a tuner or re-tune if you change the pipes and air cleaner both.
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I'm planning the same. Going to be getting just the Vance and Hines big shots and was wondering about needing the tuner. I guess it should be safe enough to try the pipes first before spending the money on a good tuner. Last resort if it doesn't run right i'll get the tuner. It's funny how so many people have different opinions on the subject.
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I'm planning the same. Going to be getting just the Vance and Hines big shots and was wondering about needing the tuner. I guess it should be safe enough to try the pipes first before spending the money on a good tuner. Last resort if it doesn't run right i'll get the tuner. It's funny how so many people have different opinions on the subject.