03 oil pump replace or not?
This thread is a great one for anybody who's selling a 99 to 06 TC88 with north of 25,000 miles and wonders why people aren't jumping on them. With the original shoes it's a crap shoot what you'll find. If a TC88 has more than 20k miles on it and the original cam shoes are in there it's gonna have to be priced at "worse case scenario" for me to bite.
Having seen the difference between how Cyco shoes wear and the originals just breaking apart; I just don't get the whole "I popped off the cam cover and checked my cam tensioner shoes and they look good for another XX miles". If I take the cam cover off a TC88, I'm changing the shoes for Cycos.
Having seen the difference between how Cyco shoes wear and the originals just breaking apart; I just don't get the whole "I popped off the cam cover and checked my cam tensioner shoes and they look good for another XX miles". If I take the cam cover off a TC88, I'm changing the shoes for Cycos.
I bought a kit with tensioners that are white that might be teflon. They are not brittle or hard like stock. A question I can't seem to find an answer to is, does the SE oil pump work with the stock cam plate. I found a SE pump for $111. I want to stay stock for now with ententions of upgrading the whole motor in the future. No sense in doing too much without getting the crank trued, welded and installing timkens.
Just looking at what's posted, if those marks are superficial and not deep gouges, you could run it - especially if you had no oil pressure problems before disassembly.
That doesn't look that bad in the pics. If you're in there and want to upgrade a pump for the sake of saving labor, thats an option too, but from what can be seen may be unnecessary.
That doesn't look that bad in the pics. If you're in there and want to upgrade a pump for the sake of saving labor, thats an option too, but from what can be seen may be unnecessary.
Thanks for all the help, I love the bike and I knew when I bought it there were some issues with the tensioners. Was hoping to not need to go into it so soon but now i have all the tools and knowledge to keep that part of the bike maintained.
You really wont need to deal with it again for 15 to 20k miles, depending on how you ride. The spring loaded tensioners aren't the real culprit, it's the silent link chains and the poor material on the OEM shoes. You're good for quite a while.
Just judging from the photos but I would run that cam plate and pump as well as taking the other advice of replacing the tensioners with CYCO shoes, removing the casting plug from the top of the plate and flushing the plate and all passages and removing and cleaning the oil pressure relief valve/spring to make sure it move freely in the bore.
If I am reading this thread correctly, you are replacing the OEM oil pump with the pump from the SE Hybrid kit, PN 62400001 (don't think the 62100001 PN is correct??) but retaining the OEM cam plate? The 62400001 pump is designed to work with the SE billet cam plate without an o-ring between the pump and plate. I don't think the 62400001 pump will work with the OEM cam plate which is designed to work with the OEM cam plate with an o-ring between the pump and plate; I am thinking the 62400001 pump and the OEM cam plate are not compatible; could be wrong but check it out.
If I am correct about the mis-match and you still think you need an upgraded pump, the Daytona pump will work. However, as I said earlier; I would run the pump and late you have in hand. New tensioner shoes and perhaps replace the inner cam bearings as well.
If I am reading this thread correctly, you are replacing the OEM oil pump with the pump from the SE Hybrid kit, PN 62400001 (don't think the 62100001 PN is correct??) but retaining the OEM cam plate? The 62400001 pump is designed to work with the SE billet cam plate without an o-ring between the pump and plate. I don't think the 62400001 pump will work with the OEM cam plate which is designed to work with the OEM cam plate with an o-ring between the pump and plate; I am thinking the 62400001 pump and the OEM cam plate are not compatible; could be wrong but check it out.
If I am correct about the mis-match and you still think you need an upgraded pump, the Daytona pump will work. However, as I said earlier; I would run the pump and late you have in hand. New tensioner shoes and perhaps replace the inner cam bearings as well.
Djl, I just got my new pump and just read your comment about the pump not being compatible with the stock plate. Is there a way to find out for sure. The stock pump doesn't have an o-ring but the port is round and the SE is oval. I haven't had a chance to see how it lines up yet.












