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Old Jul 13, 2022 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Max Headflow
The traditional load test requires a 100 amp load on the battery for 15 seconds. At that point the voltage should be above about 10 volts.

Can you jump the bike from another battery?



For me if you are hearing this, I'd say the starter clutch is having issues. This typically happens when the battery is low.

If you measure say above 11 volts at the battery and the motor turns over at the rate you show in the video. I'd suspect a weak starter or something wrong starter cables / ground.

So you just bought the bike? Good to know.

Have you been able to get it to run at all? One issue might be that the engine full of oil, making it hard to crank over.
Yea, I'll rig up the multimeter tonight and dub around with it. jot down the voltages.

I could jump from the ATV battery. that'd probably be the easiest.

I do feel like its a starter issue. there's a mechanical noise in there that isn't sounding good at all. I was even thinking perhaps the CPS not sending a good signal.

Bought the bike in...April? I've got about 1500 miles on it. The first day I rode it to work, the battery went kaput. It was the original too, so no harm there. Removed the battery and walked to NAPA and back with a new one.

Since then, its been fine. The starting issue used to be rare. Now its happening more and more. Totally random too. Hot, cold, doesn't matter. Some times it fires up the very first click. Others, I'll be at the gas station after 100 miles and it takes a good 15 seconds or so to kick over.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2022 | 09:09 AM
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I quickly scanned responses above & saw where it was recommended that you clean the connections at the starter
but I do not see where you've said that you actually did do that. All I saw was that you cleaned/checked the
connections on the battery... While the battery is out, remove the cable to the starter & clean the cable
and the starter lug as well as the ground cable attached to the frame...

good luck,

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Old Jul 13, 2022 | 09:33 AM
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I quickly scanned responses above & saw where it was recommended that you clean the connections at the starter
but I do not see where you've said that you actually did do that. All I saw was that you cleaned/checked the
connections on the battery... While the battery is out, remove the cable to the starter & clean the cable
and the starter lug as well as the ground cable attached to the frame...

good luck,

T.
Ok, I'll dig around in there tonight.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2022 | 06:27 PM
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https://irate4x4.com/data/video/183/...ce8a414cd0.mp4

There's a good example at what is happening.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2022 | 07:30 PM
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Well now we are getting some place.. The battery cranking voltages look good and charging good but your video shows another issue.. Notice that twice when it stalls there is a puff through the intake..

This is my guess. What is happening is likely is happening is too much cranking timing and possibly not enough fuel. There could still be something wrong with the starter and starter cables.. Battery is good.

What is non standard on this bike? Not enough fuel might be a symptom of a fuel pressure issue..
 
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Old Jul 13, 2022 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Headflow
Well now we are getting some place.. The battery cranking voltages look good and charging good but your video shows another issue.. Notice that twice when it stalls there is a puff through the intake..

This is my guess. What is happening is likely is happening is too much cranking timing and possibly not enough fuel. There could still be something wrong with the starter and starter cables.. Battery is good.

What is non standard on this bike? Not enough fuel might be a symptom of a fuel pressure issue..
Not a lot of info on the bike. I'm the third owner. The second owner was useless. He couldn't even cancel the directionals. He mentioned the original owner "put a screaming eagle kit in it".

It does have a FuelPak FP1 (first gen) in it.

First day I rode it to work, the battery went kaput. WOuldn't even crank. Pulled the cover, the tag on it said 2010. THe bike is a 2010. So I think it was original. Yanked it and walked to NAPA to get another. Wasn't all that particular on a battery, I just wanted a decent one that would get me home.

It came with these awful V&H Side Shots on it. I yanked those, and put the stock pipes the guy had on it. I then tuned it to stock setup. Was running just fine. I've got a bit over 1,000 miles on it. I'd say the last...300 or so its been getting worse.

I've got another guy telling me this battery is no good and that's what is causing this. So, no idea.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2022 | 08:47 PM
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I ran the FuelPak numbers. Compared them.



Top is what's in there now. Bottom I'm going to punch in tomorrow. See if that has an effect. Those values vary quite a bit there.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2022 | 07:28 AM
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Again I quickly scanned responses above, but I did not see
where you ever disconnected the Fuel Pack to see if it was better.

Personally, I'm not a fan of Fuel Pack....

good luck,

T.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2022 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by WKNDS
Again I quickly scanned responses above, but I did not see
where you ever disconnected the Fuel Pack to see if it was better.

Personally, I'm not a fan of Fuel Pack....

good luck,

T.
FuelPak came with the bike and I've never used one before so I'm still fumbling around with it. I do see mixed reviews with it.

Its just as simple as unplugging it and replugging the ECM back in right?
 

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Old Jul 14, 2022 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by woodsman_
FuelPak came with the bike and I've never used one before so I'm still fumbling around with it. I do see mixed reviews with it.
Its just as simple as unplugging it and replugging the ECM back in right?
I would pull the main fuse first, then go about disconnecting it/reconnecting the
ECM to the stock wire harness.

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