111" it is
Originally Posted by texashillcountry
I had some Samson 2-1's but I drug the pipe in the corners.
That's why I went with the short shots.
That's why I went with the short shots.
That's a major reason why I'm considering doing a rebuild versus dropping in a crate motor even though a fresh crate 111 would be sweet. With mine going on 25 years old, will it make much difference in the value if I keep the stock cases versus going with a crate?
From what I've seen a 25 year old bike isn't worth much regardless if it has the original engine or not. Enjoy your bike and don't worry about resale because you are going to be very disappointed if you worry about resale.
That Bee is very impressive, it's got a 500 ci stroker engine that my buddy and his son built. It weighs 3800 lbs vs my Vette's 3165 so getting that big hoss into the 10's is an accomplishment.
That particular evening was the first time either of us got a 10 second ¼ mile slip. Only 5 years ago, that was a pretty big accomplishment in a street car.
That particular evening was the first time either of us got a 10 second ¼ mile slip. Only 5 years ago, that was a pretty big accomplishment in a street car.
I don't plan on getting rid of it...I was thinking down the road maybe another 15 to 20 years.
In my opinion, there were way to many Harleys made after 1984 for them to ever be worth much more than they are now. 15 to 20 years from now I don't see them going up much more over inflation, if you're looking for an investment a Knucklehead might be a good one to get.
If you want a huge motor, just get it and enjoy your bike. Take the engine out and keep it for the next guy if you want. Your bike will be worth more with the stock engine than a bored and modded engine anyway. Don't lose sight of the fact that the Evo case wasn't designed for 100 rwhp - more like 1/2 of that - so you may end up losing your case anyway in the perhaps not so long haul if you go that route.
Best to keep the old engine and re-install it when it comes to sell, then sell the crate engine separately.
There is another element to all this that I've found is must more unfashionable to voice in these circles.
There are a load of calculations that suggest the amount of energy and, hence, pollution involved in the manufacturing a vehicle is equal to the amount of energy and pollution it creates in its life time. In general, motor industry estimates vary around 100% +/- 20%, however, when applied to a typically low mileaged H-D that has to be much worse, like 900% or 800%.
They reckon on an average factor something like 1,000 lbs CO2 per $1000 spent.
Now, I'm too intellectually lazy to work out the specifics, and I don't think anyone has done it out for H-Ds, so don't argue the details with me because I'm able to defend them. However, intuitively I reckon that sounds about right and like a slam dunk in favor of restoring or "re-manufacturing" older existing vehicles for as long as possible --- and then just practising Buddhist meditation to find inner satisfaction, instead of lusting after the latest paint and trim job.
(It's a long time since I read Pirsig. Apparently 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance' was "the biggest-selling philosophy book ever". To be honest, my recollection is that I didn't care for it much because he wasn't "biker" enough. But that might have just been jealousy, as I had come to my own conclusion before I read his book that what most long distance riders were doing is a crazy form of meditation ... The Motorcycle is Yourself. I liked his 'ode to a lathe' around 36 minutes. His description of electrotherapy and the "blessed release of unconsciousness" is amazing. There's a number of ways to practise that, without the former).
Last edited by Lucky Luke; Nov 10, 2015 at 10:07 PM.
I read Zen while recovering from a broken collar bone, after an off on ice. Too long ago to recall much of it today. Pirsig did point out that his book didn't have anything to do with either Zen or bike maintenance!
As for changing engines for an aftermarket one, I suggest that after 25 years it really isn't going to matter. A well running bike in good condition is going to sell when you eventually do so. I installed my 107" in 2008 having given that prospect just a few moments thought.
As for changing engines for an aftermarket one, I suggest that after 25 years it really isn't going to matter. A well running bike in good condition is going to sell when you eventually do so. I installed my 107" in 2008 having given that prospect just a few moments thought.
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