Ignition Woes...
#81
As I remember, tested the wires for resistance, before and after, then the coil same way. It was some years ago, before HI-4's were known junk.
One more thing I'm learning...don't try to help someone unless you like criticism. Jesus Christ.
Did you skip the part where I said it's fixed now?
Last edited by RHPAW; 05-01-2024 at 09:07 AM.
#82
We're pretty much in agreement, so why are you ?
As I remember, tested the wires for resistance, before and after, then the coil same way. It was some years ago, before HI-4's were known junk.
One more thing I'm learning...don't try to help someone unless you like criticism. Jesus Christ.
Did you skip the part where I said it's fixed now?
As I remember, tested the wires for resistance, before and after, then the coil same way. It was some years ago, before HI-4's were known junk.
One more thing I'm learning...don't try to help someone unless you like criticism. Jesus Christ.
Did you skip the part where I said it's fixed now?
#83
When you go from single fire to dual fire you stop using one of the 2ki outputs.. That output failed.
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After thinking about this if all you did was flip the dual fire / single fire switch from single fire to dual fire and it worked one of the sensors on the back of the plate might have died..
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After thinking about this if all you did was flip the dual fire / single fire switch from single fire to dual fire and it worked one of the sensors on the back of the plate might have died..
But regardless the module was getting fried and the only thing I think that could fry the module is high voltage.. There is nothing in the secondary ignition that's going to take out the ignition module.. It's all downstream it doesn't back feed.. unless the secondary on the coil is leaking back into the primary, who the hell knows..
Right now I will say, I'm running a dual fire coil with a screaming Eagle ignition module the same one that failed under single fire but will not start and run but will under dual fire.. odd but it is how it is and the bike is running flawlessly right now.. And believe me I'm definitely carrying spare everything in the saddleback right now..
As for @RHPAW Some of the information that you gave was misleading about the plug wires even I questioned it but I understand where you're coming from cuz you came back and tried to correct it, no big deal.. You just need to understand @Max Headflow He just likes to make sure that what is stated is correct.. And yes absolutely the Crane hi-4 went to **** long time ago.. S&S Had to go at it and it's still ****..
#84
There are no sensors on the back of my plate if you're referring to the hall effect pickup. The timing rotor cup has two windows that trigger the events.. Yes one of the outputs or should I say both of them went to ship because it wouldn't even start neither way and the timing was so far off that at times I would get this super loud explosion out the exhaust which was because the ignition module fired on the exhaust stroke Let me tell you it was ****ing loud..
But regardless the module was getting fried and the only thing I think that could fry the module is high voltage.. There is nothing in the secondary ignition that's going to take out the ignition module.. It's all downstream it doesn't back feed.. unless the secondary on the coil is leaking back into the primary, who the hell knows..
Right now I will say, I'm running a dual fire coil with a screaming Eagle ignition module the same one that failed under single fire but will not start and run but will under dual fire.. odd but it is how it is and the bike is running flawlessly right now.. And believe me I'm definitely carrying spare everything in the saddleback right now..
As for @RHPAW Some of the information that you gave was misleading about the plug wires even I questioned it but I understand where you're coming from cuz you came back and tried to correct it, no big deal.. You just need to understand @Max Headflow He just likes to make sure that what is stated is correct.. And yes absolutely the Crane hi-4 went to **** long time ago.. S&S Had to go at it and it's still ****..
But regardless the module was getting fried and the only thing I think that could fry the module is high voltage.. There is nothing in the secondary ignition that's going to take out the ignition module.. It's all downstream it doesn't back feed.. unless the secondary on the coil is leaking back into the primary, who the hell knows..
Right now I will say, I'm running a dual fire coil with a screaming Eagle ignition module the same one that failed under single fire but will not start and run but will under dual fire.. odd but it is how it is and the bike is running flawlessly right now.. And believe me I'm definitely carrying spare everything in the saddleback right now..
As for @RHPAW Some of the information that you gave was misleading about the plug wires even I questioned it but I understand where you're coming from cuz you came back and tried to correct it, no big deal.. You just need to understand @Max Headflow He just likes to make sure that what is stated is correct.. And yes absolutely the Crane hi-4 went to **** long time ago.. S&S Had to go at it and it's still ****..
Well I thought it was an internal one. The problem with the external one is that it utilizes the stock sensor and tries to figure out single fire on the run..
Dump the module and go to the nose cone 2KI.
You haven't a clue about coils.. A coil is nothing more than a transformer where energy is stored in the core. Coils are bidirectional. It's probably not the the problem tho now that I know you are running and external 2000.. You might get away with it if you try to add filtering to the power going in.. Say 2 caps one 200 uf and one 0.1 uf. Don''t know if it will help.
BTW
Why does the install guide say this..
On any electronic advance ignition such as the Dyna 2000 or the stock Harley ignition, you must use carbon or
graphite core type suppression spark plug wires with a resistance in the range of 2000 to 4000 ohms per foot to reduce
radio frequency interference. Use of metal core wires may cause malfunction of the ignition due to severe electrical
noise generated at the spark plugs. The original wires supplied by Harley-Davidson are acceptable. Suppression wires
are also available from Dynatek.
graphite core type suppression spark plug wires with a resistance in the range of 2000 to 4000 ohms per foot to reduce
radio frequency interference. Use of metal core wires may cause malfunction of the ignition due to severe electrical
noise generated at the spark plugs. The original wires supplied by Harley-Davidson are acceptable. Suppression wires
are also available from Dynatek.
Last edited by Max Headflow; 05-01-2024 at 05:49 PM.
#85
Well I thought it was an internal one. The problem with the external one is that it utilizes the stock sensor and tries to figure out single fire on the run.. Not sure how they do it but I would not run that one on a high performance motor unless you run it dual fire all the time.
Dump the module and go to the nose cone 2KI.
You haven't a clue about coils.. A coil is nothing more than a transformer where energy is stored in the core. Coils are bidirectional. It's probably not the the problem tho now that I know you are running and external 2000.. You might get away with it if you try to add filtering to the power going in.. Say 2 caps one 200 uf and one 0.1 uf. Don''t know if it will help.
BTW
Why does the install guide say this..
Like I said earlier I always use a carbon core and yeah my resistance is literally 4000 per 1 ft.I never use anything else..
And yes I do believe that it was the power source going in taken out the module..
#86
It's odd that the SE module works, I thought they were made by Dynatek.
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