They are brand new lifters I put in with the cam. 250 for a set aint cheap especially if you don't even know if that is the problem.

 

things change when heat is added, some things expand quicker than others, maybe a bad roller on a lifter will only be noisy after warm. a gap in the exhaust might open up when warm and close back down when it cools.

 

tightened the front exhaust it is quieter but still there. I need to do the drive to work and see if it gets loud or if tightening the exhaust helped. should I just call the shop and take it back down there?

 

Never replaced a cam, but maybe take a piece of hose to use as an audible stethescope (sp) one end to your ear, the other searching around areas of the motor, might help you isolate where the noise is coming from. Maybe even stuff a small funnel on the search end.

 

SE E-Z justs are a 24TPI thread pitch. Just got done with a cam change like you did. Had my factory gear pressed onto a VT .585 lift cam, installed a new Torrington bearing and S&S lifters. Set the end play at .011, close as we could get with the shims on hand. A chart I checked showed 2.4 turns @ 24 TPI to get the lifter preload set correctly. We went 2.5 as it's hard to count flats on the SE pushrods the way they are made. Engine started right up and the valvetrain is quiet, just a slight noise from the roller rockers. Try readjusting your pushrods if they are set more that 2.5 turns. Some guys go an extra 1/2 turn on the front exhaust if it's noisy as it's the longest. Hope this helps.

 

I would, at least, talk to the installer and get his opinion on what it may be. You can ask him about the cam bearing, whether he used EZ install push rods and anything else you can think of. It's normal to have some extra valve train noise after a cam install but if it's causing you anxiety, check into it.

 

He used screaming eagle ez install adjustables. I bought all the parts he just did the labor. I called him today he said bring it by and he will listen to it. First thing he said was I may have a lifter collapsing. I don't want to throw a couple hundred dollars at what may be the problem. I am bothered by the fact he didn't switch the stock gear. I guess I will take it by there and see what happens.

 

Most parts have a warranty and for this change being that new should not be an issue. New parts can and do have problems sometimes. Labor however, is never covered under the manufacturers warranty unless your Indy offers his own. We guarantee our work for 6 months or 6K, long as you have the bike serviced with us on time. If your Indy will not stand behind his work, then I'd be looking for another. Just my opinion, but I have lifetime warrantied lifters on sale (V-Thunder). Warranty will replace the lifter, but not the labor or any damage caused by the part failing. Do you have the picture now on how it works??

 

redrott,

Read point 4. on this pdf dicussing Andrews cams:

http://www.andrewsproducts.com/PDF_files/CamEV80.pdf

"4. To make sure that your new camshaft drive gear will operate quietly, the cam gear to pinion backlash must be correctly set up. Proper backlash is .0000/.0005 for a cold engine. Andrews Products recommends that BOTH the new gear and the original gear be measured as described on the last page of these instructions. If both gears measure within .0005" of the same size, it should NOT be necessary to change gears. If a different size gear is required, Andrews Products has them. Excess backlash will cause gear noise which sounds like loose lifters but will not hurt anything. Insufficient backlash will cause a distinct gear whine and should be corrected since gear tooth damage will result over a short time period."

If you do not have the whine noise, then it sounds like the size of the gear won't cause damage. I guess if the sound you are hearing is similar to the loose lifter, then it would be annoying but wouldn't cause damage.

 

I dropped it off today. He is going to look at it monday. It was making the noise when I left it and he listened to it. He said he would go back through and readjust the pushrods and check the exhaust gaskets. He said it may be a bad lifter. I guess I will see what he says. No charge for the readjust but if the lifters have to be replaced again I will have to pay for it. May do it myself. I am just pretty sure it is going to be the cam gear and I dont' have the stock gear to swap out how hard is it to replace the pinion gear?