Gear Cams...Shaft run-out?
Neckball, did you have your dial indicator exactly prependicular to your shaft? If you did not have it at a perfect 90 degrees it will not be accurate and will actually show more run out than you really have. The video above is excellent.
. Pointer was perpendicular each of the 4 different ways I checked trying to find a lower number. No such luck. And the more you get away from perpendicular with the pointer, the less it will travel in relation to the runout of the shaft, not more.
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I thought the same thing until an engineer pointed out that the cosine effect works differently than what seems to make sense LOL. try it and you will see that if you have .003 run out at 90 degrees you will show more on the dial indicator ifthe plungeris at 45 degrees.A very experienced machinst told me they learn thisearly on. When I first checked mine I useda plate like you bolted to the case and had a hard time getting the dial indicator at exactly 90 degrees. When I was at probably 50 degrees or so my run out was too much. When it was explained to me that it needed to be at 90 degrees I worked the dial indicator until i was at 90 degrees and lo and behold I was at .0015 and happy.Again I know it might not make logical sense but it does make mathematic sense.
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I thought the same thing until an engineer pointed out that the cosine effect works differently than what seems to make sense LOL. try it and you will see that if you have .003 run out at 90 degrees you will show more on the dial indicator ifthe plungeris at 45 degrees.A very experienced machinst told me they learn thisearly on. When I first checked mine I useda plate like you bolted to the case and had a hard time getting the dial indicator at exactly 90 degrees. When I was at probably 50 degrees or so my run out was too much. When it was explained to me that it needed to be at 90 degrees I worked the dial indicator until i was at 90 degrees and lo and behold I was at .0015 and happy.Again I know it might not make logical sense but it does make mathematic sense.
Pull the gears and check crank runout with the cam plate still on. I had a hard time finding a good place for a mag base, so used a clamp to hold my dial indicator firmly. Everything I've read is same as what Dawg said, you can go up to .003" and go with gears. If you use a peacock lever type of dial indicator, alignment is not as critical.
try it and you will see that if you have .003 run out at 90 degrees you will show more on the dial indicator ifthe plungeris at 45 degrees.
neckball, this can explain it better than I can.
http://groups.msn.com/harleytechtalk...09489588922313
http://groups.msn.com/harleytechtalk...09489588922313
Draw a right triangle. Either side off the right angle will be shorter than the hypotenuse (long side opposite the right angle). That's why the best and most accurate reading will be at 90 degrees to the shaft. Any other angle has to yield a longer and less accurate measurement.
The updated MOCO spec on the chain units is .012"!!!
If we re-built a crank(which we average a couple a week) and handed the client a crank that was .012 TIR, I would expect him to throw it though the showroom window. Must be OK for Harley to that.
If we re-built a crank(which we average a couple a week) and handed the client a crank that was .012 TIR, I would expect him to throw it though the showroom window. Must be OK for Harley to that.






