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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 06:24 AM
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Can someone explain what 5 angle valve work means? I see a lot of top end rebuilders doing this.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 08:37 AM
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75, 60, 45, 30, and 15 degree angles. I prefer flow angle. Radius in radius out from the 45.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 08:54 AM
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Multi-angle valve jobs are the most common way to make a valve more aerodynamic and make the head more efficient. A multi-angle valve job puts extra cuts on the valve near where it mates with the cylinder head, streamlining it and helping to move air past its surfaces with the minimum resistance and turbulence possible. OEM valve jobs are usually one or two-angle valve jobs. This is done to keep costs low, and even if they want more airflow, OEMs will often just switch to a larger valve instead of using multi-angle valve jobs because it's cheaper than performing the extra machining of a multi-angle job. However, for the average enthusiast, the opposite typically holds true because oversized valves can be very costly.
The more angles a valve job employs, the better it will generally flow. The most common multi-angle valve jobs are 3-angle, 5-angle and radius valve jobs. A radius valve job is basically a 5-angle job where the transitions between the 5 angles are smoothed out. The downside is that the more cuts, the higher the cost. For this reason, 3-angle jobs are the most common and offer a good balance between cost and performance. Don't underestimate the importance of a quality valve job.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 11:02 AM
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Its not the angles on the valve. Its the angles on the valve seat. 3 angles on the seat is more than enough unless you are going to raise the exhaust port about 3/4". Your wasting money on doing more than 3, especially for a street engine. My friend builds drag race engines.... I got his 3 angle valve seat cut on my heads...the same angle and length of angle as he does on his 800hp small block chevy engines. I'm short just a few HP though on my HD, LOL. www.hemimilitia.com
 
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 05:04 PM
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Hey Timberland,
Is the Jesel, George Jesel that used to race at the national events, way back when??
 
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 05:36 PM
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John, I dont know your answer. The owner is Dan Jesel. They have some high dollar go fast V TWIN components for HD's. www.jesel.com as well as some serious NHRA, IHRA, NASCAR, etc, etc engine components
 

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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 06:08 AM
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Jesel has always been an innovator in the valve-train industry.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 12:03 AM
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Scott, did you see their rocker arm setups for twincams....hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm tempting......lol
 
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 02:30 AM
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The multi angle is from the old school when they used to do the seats with grinding stones. They would do many angles in an attempt to try and create a radius below the 45.

Modern valve seat machines no longer do this because the seat is cut with a tool that can make any seat configuration including a true radius at one time.

It is much quicker and far more accurate. Every seat is exactly the same.

Jay
 
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 07:14 PM
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Radiused seats are excellent for the ex. seat but the multi angle is better for the intake seat. This has been proven on the flowbench,wetflow bench, dyno and track. The hard part is determining what angles work best.That is why a good set of heads isn't cheap, you are paying for that knowledge. Chamber design, valve angle and port design all are determining factors in what works and what doesn't. Andy
 
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