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04-08-2009, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by travroc

CA wrote the helmet about 20 years ago. We don't need no stinkin' new laws from big brother protecting us from ourselves and we do not need any 20 year old laws ammended for that cause either.

Let those who ride decide. I have a "novelty", DOT half (pictured below), and a FF helmet and wear which ever I choose depending on the ride and conditions. Heck, when I cross state lines into AZ/UT, I will ride with no helmet when I feel like it.

It is nice to see that we may be able to at least ride with our novelty helmets, if we "choose" to wear them, and not be worried about getting hassled by law enforcement.

The issue here is only relative to the CHP at this point. It offers no such action or moratorium when applied to the local authorities. The helmet law in California went into effect January 1, 1992 after narrowly passing in April of 1991. David Alcon, an Icon in the fight against the constitutionality of the helmet law received 80 citations and eventually went to jail in around 1993. The problem that has always faced the CHP and local authorities is one jusisdiction. Neither has the authority to review and determine the test results of specific helmet manufacturers and the DOT certification is a self certification, they nor the NHTSB tests helmets and they do not provide any list of the helmets that do pass so the consumer can make an informed choice before buying the helmet. If you have never heard of the E&R helmet company, this is where it all started when it comes to beanie helmets.

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04-08-2009, 06:54 AM

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There may be hope for California yet.

___________ I'm . a . Hope-in

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04-08-2009, 11:07 AM

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There may be hope for California yet.

Nope...there's not

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04-08-2009, 06:27 PM

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Left CA in 1974 and haven 't been back PTL They still can't figure out wtf they want to do.

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04-08-2009, 07:00 PM

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Nope...there's not

....I-NO....Cowboy,, We . R . Stuck Here .
If . U . own your Home . U . can't . Sell it and Leave
the Only way . U . can leave is . FORECLOSE - and GO...

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04-08-2009, 07:07 PM

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Well I just bought a new visor for my beanie so I am all ready to go!

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04-08-2009, 07:31 PM

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The beanie is getting a new coat of paint, and already has the dreaded DOT sticker on it. I think my carbon fiber DOT is probably more comfortable. We will see after this weekend.

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04-08-2009, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dennyo

....I-NO....Cowboy,, We . R . Stuck Here .
If . U . own your Home . U . can't . Sell it and Leave
the Only way . U . can leave is . FORECLOSE - and GO...

Not such a problem for us but if we leave I will make at least $50,000 less doing what I do...we are considering the DFW area though...gotta do what you gotta do to feed the family and if the construction industry doesn't get goign again in Cali, we are gone...

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04-08-2009, 11:44 PM

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The beanie is getting a new coat of paint, and already has the dreaded DOT sticker on it. I think my carbon fiber DOT is probably more comfortable. We will see after this weekend.

For me it's the other way around. The Beanie is much more comfortable than the Carbon Fiber helmet.

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04-10-2009, 02:15 PM

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I watched the helmet fight back in the late '80s & early '90s but I still don't understand what happend. I guess it was the Demacrat?.

You should have watched a little closer,or done your homework. The Colorado Helmet law frome '69 to '77 was introduced by Ruth Stockton a Lakewood Republican. The repeal in '77 was introduced by Ray Kogovsek a Democrat. A Texan Repbulican buddy of Dubya Bush tried to reinstate it in '83 he was Republican Bill Owens Aurora, later governor. I had more than a little to do with the repeal in '77 and had more trouble with Republican legislators than Dems. The Key is to not polarize the issue. We worked with both parties and got it repealed and defeated new bills in a bi partisan fashion. Support the issue not the party. By the way ABATE of Colorado had NOTHING to so with the repeal, though they claim to. May 27th will mark 32 years of freedom.