It's like the drunk check points they do in Cali. They used to do them in Washington but I havent seen any in years. Visiting in Cali we thought we were running into one on a corner. Turns out a drunk rolled his car & the lights were from a cop & wrecker.

 

Freedoms, Liberties, Rights,

Natural Rights: The classic definition of "natural rights" are "life, liberty, and property", but these need to be expanded somewhat. They are rights of "personhood", not "citizenship". These rights are not all equally basic, but form a hierarchy of derivation, with those listed later being generally derived from those listed earlier.

 

"Oh, yeah, that's right. That's what's it's all about, all right. But talkin' about it and bein' it, that's two different things. I mean, it's real hard to be free when you are bought and sold in the marketplace. Of course, don't ever tell anybody that they're not free, 'cause then they're gonna get real busy killin' and maimin' to prove to you that they are. Oh, yeah, they're gonna talk to you, and talk to you, and talk to you about individual freedom. But they see a free individual, it's gonna scare 'em." George Hanson (Easyrider)

 

There’s a couple of the reasons why I like living in Nevada. Typically the police don’t pull people over unless you’re doing something wrong (with the exception of holiday check points) or your vehicle appears like it isn’t road worthy. There are no Smog checks (cages only) or State Inspections.

 

Here in Fla. DUI check points are as regular as the rain. What they have to do, is when they are deciding where they are going to put the check point, they also have to advise the state attorneys office, of the method they are using to stop the cars, to avoid motorist from saying they were singled out. For instance they will shut down a lane of traffic or a parking lot. They will cone off an area (shute) that will hold a certain amount of vehicles (usually about 6 to 10). once they enter traffic, they will wave in enough cars to fill the shute, and then open traffic up on the road. The vehicles are approached and checked for equipment, insurance, license, alchohol etc. The sober ones are sent on their way and when the shute is empty, the process starts again. In Florida they also have to post the check point date and location in the local paper I think a week or two ahead of time.

Things differ from state to state, but it sounds like they just said "We are stopping every motorcycle."
Not saying its right or wrong, jus saying thats how its done down this ah way.

 

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I think the words about **** guards and death camps are not in very good taste even if you were kidding.

and to the original post - i refer to it as profiling. Do you think it would be ok for the police to pull over a certain race of people or sex?

 

There's a lawsuit going through New York State courts now to prohibit motorcycle only checkpoints.

Seems the Department of National Highway Safety has given thousands of dollars to local and state authorities to have these checkpoints.

Bikers in NY are trying to stop it, as they should.

 

While not required by law in many states, I recommend to always carry your registration with you in your wallet. Its an easy thing to do and it may help you some sunny day. Man you guys have some registration issues...all three bikes with some kind of an issue...sheesh The type of "checkpoint" you describe is not legal 'round my parts...have to have at least reasonable suspicion of illegal activity in order to stop a motorist.

 

profiling is a tool used by every law enforcement agency in he world. If an oriental robs a bank do you think the cops will be stopping every white guy in the area? no. Profliing is a bs buz word created by the media. If the alleged criminal is a certain color or race, of course the agency will be singling out that group. Hard to find the criminal any other way.