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#671
06-09-2018, 07:02 PM
That would be great!! I hope it works. Then we could de-mod the bike if needed (like for a new transmission!)
I'm curious if there is more information on why this is happening. I've read the speculation that maybe the primary is drawing a vacuum and sucking the transmission lubricant in. Or maybe there is a pumping action that is pulling it in? Venturi effect? I sort of doubt it's a gravity drain - but liquids do seek the lowest spot they can get to so it's possible.
I agree with the comments that this is not normal. Not sure what moco is thinking saying that - although it sounds like different people are saying different things and some may be going off script.
I'm curious if there is more information on why this is happening. I've read the speculation that maybe the primary is drawing a vacuum and sucking the transmission lubricant in. Or maybe there is a pumping action that is pulling it in? Venturi effect? I sort of doubt it's a gravity drain - but liquids do seek the lowest spot they can get to so it's possible.
I agree with the comments that this is not normal. Not sure what moco is thinking saying that - although it sounds like different people are saying different things and some may be going off script.
#672
06-09-2018, 09:13 PM
He said hot is how it is checked. My owner's manual and service manual says otherwise. So, I'll ask other forum member what is the right/correct way to check transmission oil levels...by the book(s) issued by Mother Harley or by my Service Mgr's word?
regards,
regards,
#673
06-09-2018, 09:44 PM
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Like I said, did he outright lie or is that how he wanted it checked? As far as SM/owners manual goes they both say to use Syn3 in the tranny.. SM says to torque 1/4-20 screws up to 144 inch-lbs.
#674
06-09-2018, 10:33 PM
"My "IDIOT" service writer told me that it's "physically impossible to transfer oil from the trans to the primary".
I asked him; "then where is it going?" Gave me the 'ol deer in the headlights look "
My Service Mgr told me to do the transmission oil level checks when the oil was hot, like when returning from a ride. I looked at him like a deer caught in the headlights but did not say anything. I went home and read both my 2017 owners manual and my 2015 service manual for transmission oil level checks. One said check at "room temperature" and the other said "ambient temperature". This was the first time I actually caught him in a lie and I am disappointed. I thought he was a straight shooter based on previous discussions I've had with him over the years.
regards,
I asked him; "then where is it going?" Gave me the 'ol deer in the headlights look "
My Service Mgr told me to do the transmission oil level checks when the oil was hot, like when returning from a ride. I looked at him like a deer caught in the headlights but did not say anything. I went home and read both my 2017 owners manual and my 2015 service manual for transmission oil level checks. One said check at "room temperature" and the other said "ambient temperature". This was the first time I actually caught him in a lie and I am disappointed. I thought he was a straight shooter based on previous discussions I've had with him over the years.
regards,
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#675
06-09-2018, 10:47 PM
It’s also possible that he just isn’t aware of the correct method of checking transmission oil or maybe he is confusing it with checking motor oil. I’ve had a service writer tell me to check the transmission with the bike upright and the owners manual and the shop manuals back to ‘09 say check it on the side stand. I think five speed transmissions had to be checked upright, but I’m not certain of that. Back then transmission oil was the one thing I didn’t check much. On the six speed it doesn’t make much difference, but the manuals do say side stand or actually jiffy stand. I don’t think that service writer lied to me, I just think he didn’t know what the recommended procedure was.
Moco brings all this confusion on themselves by changing the rules.........
#676
06-10-2018, 07:03 AM
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06-10-2018, 08:23 PM
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#678
06-10-2018, 10:15 PM
(Bonus points for anyone who can remember the cartoon that saying came from, lol!)
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06-11-2018, 08:33 AM
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