Removing the Mainshaft Transmission Oil Deflector (P/N 36300026)
#1
Removing the Mainshaft Transmission Oil Deflector (P/N 36300026)
Has anyone done this? I can't find anything in the service manual regarding this action and not sure what needs to be removed prior to getting in the transmission. Also, the primary vent kit did not come with any gaskets for the transmission so not sure if I need new gaskets or not. Do I need to remove the header? Why must this deflector be removed? Does it cause issues? I can't see this being an issue just because I put a vent in the primary side, seems strange.
I am all for doing what needs to be done but it seems like a lot of work for something that may or may not be there and may or may not make any difference.
I am all for doing what needs to be done but it seems like a lot of work for something that may or may not be there and may or may not make any difference.
#2
Has anyone done this? I can't find anything in the service manual regarding this action and not sure what needs to be removed prior to getting in the transmission. Also, the primary vent kit did not come with any gaskets for the transmission so not sure if I need new gaskets or not. Do I need to remove the header? Why must this deflector be removed? Does it cause issues? I can't see this being an issue just because I put a vent in the primary side, seems strange.
I am all for doing what needs to be done but it seems like a lot of work for something that may or may not be there and may or may not make any difference.
I am all for doing what needs to be done but it seems like a lot of work for something that may or may not be there and may or may not make any difference.
Per the vent kit instructions (https://serviceinfo.harley-davidson....46960640898220), to remove the deflector, it says to remove the transmission side covers - any 2017+ service manual will show how to remove the outer transmission side cover and the inner cover (Section 8.5, page 8-7 in my 2017 manual, as shown below). The deflector just slides off the pushrod.
#3
I imagine my '19 Limited still has the oil slinger. Original vent install instructions made no mention of slinger removal. Build date of Feb.
Primary vent installed at 1,000 mile service. I just did the 10,000 mile service last week. Zero transfer in 9,000 miles. Before the vent it would suck the stick dry in a tank of fuel.
Primary vent installed at 1,000 mile service. I just did the 10,000 mile service last week. Zero transfer in 9,000 miles. Before the vent it would suck the stick dry in a tank of fuel.
#4
I imagine my '19 Limited still has the oil slinger. Original vent install instructions made no mention of slinger removal. Build date of Feb.
Primary vent installed at 1,000 mile service. I just did the 10,000 mile service last week. Zero transfer in 9,000 miles. Before the vent it would suck the stick dry in a tank of fuel.
Primary vent installed at 1,000 mile service. I just did the 10,000 mile service last week. Zero transfer in 9,000 miles. Before the vent it would suck the stick dry in a tank of fuel.
I am going to have a wait and see on this one then. No sense in removing it if it doesn't need to be. Ad far as I can see it's not detrimental to leave it unless it's still transferring after the vent is installed.
#5
This is why I let the dealer do warranty work, because it's a pain in the a$$. The deflector was designed to collect trans oil and "sling" it around, rather than migrate along the pushrod and into the primary. Problem is, it works very well at collecting oil, but not slinging it, so it makes transfer worse - and also tends to create transfer issues when there otherwise shouldn't be (i.e. when the primary vent is installed).
Per the vent kit instructions (https://serviceinfo.harley-davidson....46960640898220), to remove the deflector, it says to remove the transmission side covers - any 2017+ service manual will show how to remove the outer transmission side cover and the inner cover (Section 8.5, page 8-7 in my 2017 manual, as shown below). The deflector just slides off the pushrod.
Per the vent kit instructions (https://serviceinfo.harley-davidson....46960640898220), to remove the deflector, it says to remove the transmission side covers - any 2017+ service manual will show how to remove the outer transmission side cover and the inner cover (Section 8.5, page 8-7 in my 2017 manual, as shown below). The deflector just slides off the pushrod.
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Thanks for the info, now I know what picture to look for and what section, this will be easy to find if I decide to do it. Seems easy, just replacing all the exhaust gaskets is a PITA. Once I commit it shouldn't take long but am going to wait on this one until I know if it needs it or not.
#9
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I do have firsthand experience with the deflector being left in. Dealer did the warranty job and failed to properly follow the bulletin, bike continued to migrate. Took it back in and asked the service writer if they indeed removed the deflector. He became argumentative and insisted the oil deflector would not have been in the bike unless it was previously installed as a fix. I insisted that all 2019’s came standard with the deflector from the factory. After ranting about how I was wrong, he proceeded to bring up the dealer parts fiche and show me all the places the deflector would be listed. After showing me the clutch section, primary section, and transmission housing section, I told him “now bring up the transmission gears” where I pointed out the deflector was listed as OE equipment. He ate crow, grabbed the mechanic who did the work who also proceeded to bitch about it, but opened it up and took out the deflector. Since then, no issue with migration. The mechanic did however gorilla the f’n derby bolts back on after checking the fluid level in the primary, which I think he did on purpose but that’s another story.
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