Time for the 4th engine in my 2017 CVO Limited... here we go again!
#1
05-22-2018, 06:15 PM
Time for the 4th engine in my 2017 CVO Limited... here we go again!
Yep, the 3rd engine in my 2017 CVO Limited sumped .... again...just like the 2 before it. This 3rd engine was upgraded to Stage IV by my dealer with custom "one off" cylinders/pistons/rings that were specced by the HD Engineering Lab and overnighted to the dealer for installation. For those not following my saga, you can catch up here https://www.hdforums.com/forum/milwa...-it-again.html.
After this 3rd engine sumped a week ago, HD shipped another brand new engine over the weekend to my dealer. This new 4th engine was built at the Pilgrim Road facility and was built as a COMPLETE Stage IV 117 engine before shipment to the dealer. I didn't even know HD would build a factory Stage IV 117. That's a new one. My bike was picked up today by the dealership and will be done in time for me to break it in on my ride to Rolling Thunder in DC. Already checked my insurance policy for towing and rental coverage just in case.
No idea what oil pump is in this engine or any other factory changes/upgrades they have done inside this engine. All I know is that it was "meticulously" built at the factory with the latest components. Externally it looks identical to the 3rd engine which had a 2018 part # case. (Engines #1 & 2 had 2017 case part #s) Of particular interest is the fact that this 4th engine now has a 2019 engine case part #. Yep, that's right.... a 2019 engine case part #.
I think I have officially earned my Harley-Davidson R&D Merit Badge!!
I give the MoCo and my dealership credit for persistence, turn around time and for simply not giving up. Here I go again....wish me luck!
After this 3rd engine sumped a week ago, HD shipped another brand new engine over the weekend to my dealer. This new 4th engine was built at the Pilgrim Road facility and was built as a COMPLETE Stage IV 117 engine before shipment to the dealer. I didn't even know HD would build a factory Stage IV 117. That's a new one. My bike was picked up today by the dealership and will be done in time for me to break it in on my ride to Rolling Thunder in DC. Already checked my insurance policy for towing and rental coverage just in case.
No idea what oil pump is in this engine or any other factory changes/upgrades they have done inside this engine. All I know is that it was "meticulously" built at the factory with the latest components. Externally it looks identical to the 3rd engine which had a 2018 part # case. (Engines #1 & 2 had 2017 case part #s) Of particular interest is the fact that this 4th engine now has a 2019 engine case part #. Yep, that's right.... a 2019 engine case part #.
I think I have officially earned my Harley-Davidson R&D Merit Badge!!
I give the MoCo and my dealership credit for persistence, turn around time and for simply not giving up. Here I go again....wish me luck!
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#2
05-22-2018, 06:25 PM
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#3
05-22-2018, 06:31 PM
Well, since 3rd time wasn’t a charm maybe 4th time will be. I certainly hope so! Do you know what they found when they took the last engine apart?
It seems like they more or less keep attempting the same thing expecting different results. Either it’s arogance or incompetence, but you’d think at some point they would try something different. Maybe they should call S&S and ask for a favor. I have a feeling they are way to stubborn and arrogant to do that!
Keeping my my fingers crossed, as I’m sure you are.
It seems like they more or less keep attempting the same thing expecting different results. Either it’s arogance or incompetence, but you’d think at some point they would try something different. Maybe they should call S&S and ask for a favor. I have a feeling they are way to stubborn and arrogant to do that!
Keeping my my fingers crossed, as I’m sure you are.
#4
05-22-2018, 06:33 PM
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Yep, the 3rd engine in my 2017 CVO Limited sumped .... again...just like the 2 before it. This 3rd engine was upgraded to Stage IV by my dealer with custom "one off" cylinders/pistons/rings that were specced by the HD engineering Lab and overnighted to the dealer for installation. For those not following my saga, you can catch up here https://www.hdforums.com/forum/milwa...-it-again.html.
After this 3rd engine sumped a week ago, HD shipped another brand new engine over the weekend to my dealer. This new 4th engine was built at the Pilgrim Road facility and was built as a COMPLETE Stage IV 117 engine before shipment to the dealer. I didn't even know HD would build a factory Stage IV 117. That's a new one. My bike was picked up today by the dealership and will be done in time for me to break it in on my ride to Rolling Thunder in DC. Already checked my insurance policy for towing and rental coverage just in case.
No idea what oil pump is in this engine or any other factory changes/upgrades they have done inside this engine. All I know is that it was "meticulously" built at the factory with the latest components. Externally it looks identical to the 3rd engine which had a 2018 part # case. (Engines #1 & 2 had 2017 case part #s) Of particular interest is the fact that this 4th engine now has a 2019 engine case part #. Yep, that's right.... a 2019 engine case part #.
I think I have officially earned my Harley-Davidson R&D Merit Badge!!
I give the MoCo and my dealership credit for persistence, turn around time and for simply not giving up. Here I go again....wish me luck!
After this 3rd engine sumped a week ago, HD shipped another brand new engine over the weekend to my dealer. This new 4th engine was built at the Pilgrim Road facility and was built as a COMPLETE Stage IV 117 engine before shipment to the dealer. I didn't even know HD would build a factory Stage IV 117. That's a new one. My bike was picked up today by the dealership and will be done in time for me to break it in on my ride to Rolling Thunder in DC. Already checked my insurance policy for towing and rental coverage just in case.
No idea what oil pump is in this engine or any other factory changes/upgrades they have done inside this engine. All I know is that it was "meticulously" built at the factory with the latest components. Externally it looks identical to the 3rd engine which had a 2018 part # case. (Engines #1 & 2 had 2017 case part #s) Of particular interest is the fact that this 4th engine now has a 2019 engine case part #. Yep, that's right.... a 2019 engine case part #.
I think I have officially earned my Harley-Davidson R&D Merit Badge!!
I give the MoCo and my dealership credit for persistence, turn around time and for simply not giving up. Here I go again....wish me luck!
#5
05-22-2018, 06:34 PM
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#6
05-22-2018, 06:42 PM
Well, since 3rd time wasn’t a charm maybe 4th time will be. I certainly hope so! Do you know what they found when they took the last engine apart?
It seems like they more or less keep attempting the same thing expecting different results. Either it’s arogance or incompetence, but you’d think at some point they would try something different. Maybe they should call S&S and ask for a favor. I have a feeling they are way to stubborn and arrogant to do that!
Keeping my my fingers crossed, as I’m sure you are.
It seems like they more or less keep attempting the same thing expecting different results. Either it’s arogance or incompetence, but you’d think at some point they would try something different. Maybe they should call S&S and ask for a favor. I have a feeling they are way to stubborn and arrogant to do that!
Keeping my my fingers crossed, as I’m sure you are.
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05-22-2018, 06:44 PM
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#8
05-22-2018, 06:55 PM
I feel for you man , what a crappy situation . Are all of our m8s heading down this road or is it just certain ones , and if so how the hell do you keep getting them ? If it is the old oil pump that causes the problem , why did they give you an old production new motor ? Why not give you a motor built say last month with any changes they have made to fix the problems ? Or did they ?
#9
05-22-2018, 07:01 PM
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I feel for you man , what a crappy situation . Are all of our m8s heading down this road or is it just certain ones , and if so how the hell do you keep getting them ? If it is the old oil pump that causes the problem , why did they give you an old production new motor ? Why not give you a motor built say last month with any changes they have made to fix the problems ? Or did they ?
#10
05-22-2018, 07:09 PM
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