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Old Dec 16, 2014 | 02:39 PM
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What's the benefit of going with the perfect fit push rods?

Should I also get the cam replacement kit with all the gaskets and o-rings?

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Like others have said, I've done so much reading about cams, I'm just about sick of even thinking and talking about it. BUT! I have made up my mind that when I do change out from the stock cam, I'm gonna go with the SE204. I just think that cam will fit me and the Breakout just right. I also want to go with the perfect-fit pushrods.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2014 | 04:57 PM
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My homework on pushrods seems to indicate the real benefit is the ability to r & r the pushrods without having to remove the gas tank, rocker covers, rocker arms, and any other items associated with that job. Seems most cut the stock rods out to prevent removing all that top end stuff. Also obviously allows for fine adjustment of lifter preload.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2014 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by galaxyfe
My homework on pushrods seems to indicate the real benefit is the ability to r & r the pushrods without having to remove the gas tank, rocker covers, rocker arms, and any other items associated with that job. Seems most cut the stock rods out to prevent removing all that top end stuff. Also obviously allows for fine adjustment of lifter preload.
What you say is very true. However, an awful lot of first timers screw it up when working with adjustable pushrods. It is one of those things where it really helps to have someone show you how to do it. There are dozens of threads about people who mess it up the first go around because they don't understand how to find the heel of the cam or how to find zero lash.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2014 | 11:37 PM
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Heel and zero lash?? Are you speaking english right now?! Lol. Would you happen to know if there are any good write ups out there about can installs. I saw the j&p cycles video on YouTube. It didn't seem like it was that bad of a job.

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What you say is very true. However, an awful lot of first timers screw it up when working with adjustable pushrods. It is one of those things where it really helps to have someone show you how to do it. There are dozens of threads about people who mess it up the first go around because they don't understand how to find the heel of the cam or how to find zero lash.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2014 | 02:48 AM
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Now that you've made up your mindhere's another one - Woods 222. Getting ready to drop it into my 103.

Put the 255's into my 96" RKC, but decided against them for this one. Like the overlap and improved midrange in these new ones. Downside is the base circle is larger...
 
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Old Dec 18, 2014 | 11:16 AM
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The woods 222 and the Andrews 48 are the new and improved versions of the SE 255 smog cam. The woods will come on a little later, but may give a few pounds more torque than the 48. As I said before the most overlooked way to get what you want is through mechanical advantage, to gear down the bike. A little off topic, but it really makes the ride more enjoyable. The SE 204?is a good choice, especially with a bump in compression.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2014 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by bklynbob
The SE 204?is a good choice, especially with a bump in compression.
If you look at the intake closing, it's right on par with the other two cams you mentioned; actually the same as the 48H. Others have made the same comment about compression with the 204, but this would indicate you should be making that statement about all of them. Again just my opinion, but with a lighter, single seat bike like a Slim or Breakout, you can get away with the bigger duration that may move the power band up some; but with the 204, it'll probably also be wider and not so low-end centric.

I agree about gearing though...if you want real world, seat of the pants, bang-for-your-buck grunt, a sprocket change is where its at.
 

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Old Dec 18, 2014 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by monarchy
Heel and zero lash?? Are you speaking english right now?! Lol. Would you happen to know if there are any good write ups out there about can installs. I saw the j&p cycles video on YouTube. It didn't seem like it was that bad of a job.
Monarchy...I'm by no means gonna say the job is beyond your capabilities, but if you are unfamiliar with these terms, you should do A LOT more homework before you jump in there. The "nuts and bolts" of slapping the new cams in there is not a cosmic job, but the little detailed things (like getting the lifter preload just right) is what takes finess found in doing your homework.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2014 | 06:24 PM
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Ditto to Galaxyfe. These old twins are still relatively simple to repair and play with, but you need the proper tools, time and competence to get it done.

You sound as though you're doing your homework - get the shop manual and read up, talk with your shop techs, and You Tube is a great place for how to's also.

Keep us posted and HAVE FUN!
 
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Old Dec 18, 2014 | 06:48 PM
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No matter what cam the tune is going to be just as important, if not most important.
 
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