Breakout Chopper
Or they recognize that there's nothing beneficial to a negative trail. At least apes serve a purpose (rider comfort). But even those can get out of control safety wise which brings us back to the territory of the proverbial making up for a lack of something like this front end does.
LOL!! That's my bike. Extra 14 degree rake and +7 fork tubes
It handles a little heavy at slow parking lot speeds...solid as a rock riding. Just takes getting used to in a parking lot
I wanted to keep it level especially since I run Shotgun shocks and ride the back lowered. That length seemed to be right for me
I wanted long and low and that's what I got 
Or they recognize that there's nothing beneficial to a negative trail. At least apes serve a purpose (rider comfort). But even those can get out of control safety wise which brings us back to the territory of the proverbial making up for a lack of something like this front end does.
Actually, the rake and trail were kept correct so there is no issue with handling except at slow parking lot speeds. My **** is over 8 inches so I'm not making up for a lack of anything. You don't like the front end? Don't put one on your bike.

Or they recognize that there's nothing beneficial to a negative trail. At least apes serve a purpose (rider comfort). But even those can get out of control safety wise which brings us back to the territory of the proverbial making up for a lack of something like this front end does.
Last edited by ChickinOnaChain; Aug 13, 2018 at 11:06 PM. Reason: Multiple posts
what's your trail estimated? Because by my calculations, no matter what you do with that much rake added, trail is negative. Part of why it's hard to maneuver in slow areas.
Last edited by ChickinOnaChain; Aug 13, 2018 at 11:07 PM. Reason: Multiple posts
Nah, no ABS on mine
Last edited by ChickinOnaChain; Aug 13, 2018 at 11:07 PM. Reason: Multiple posts
Post your math...it is wrong. Raking the frame takes the trail in one direction...raking the trees takes it the other.
This kit has an adapter that effectively rakes the frame, then raked trees bring the trail back to manageable...slow steering in parking lots is because of the length.
Last edited by ChickinOnaChain; Aug 13, 2018 at 11:07 PM. Reason: Multiple posts
The steering neck in that picture doesn't look like it lines up with the triple trees. The red line there is drawn off the trees...but not off the neck. I don't know what they did or did not do to right it, but just going off what I see. It looks to me that it is the stock rake with an added rake triple tree...which would absolutely put you into negative trail.
Here's what I see in the image. Now bear in mind the bike is at an angle where the front wheel is lower on the pavement and that could skew things.
Here's what I see in the image. Now bear in mind the bike is at an angle where the front wheel is lower on the pavement and that could skew things.
Last edited by ChickinOnaChain; Aug 13, 2018 at 11:08 PM. Reason: Multiple posts









