"....The only thing you need to watch out for is if you get caught in the rain they dont stop good at all.We all try not to ride in the rain but we all get caught in it.you just have to brake hard...."

Whaaat? Have I got that right? The new pads you put in don't work in the wet until you brake HARD? Just when you need sensitivity, grip, feedback and above all else control you've fitted pads that don't work until you grab a handful? Right..

Reckon I'm better off cleaning brake dust off; at least it doesn't involve mortuaries, hospitals and insurance claims!!

 

Well Rev, I'm not sure who you are responding to so I'll guess??? ......you're talking about the LRB Z+ pads? You say they don't work well in the rain? I've been using them exclusively along with HD floating rotors and stock calipers. I can honestly say that they outperform the stock sintered iron pads and solid rotors in every possible way, including functionality and smoothness in the rain! It's funny that you mention that you'll keep "cleaning brake dust off". If you (or whoever told you this misinformation) would have taken the time to do what Lyndall Racing Brakes tells you to do on install, you would not have any problems.

Red Devil, LRB has very specific instructions on installing their products:

http://www.lyndallracingbrakes.com/service_tech.htm

These people are the real deal!
http://www.lyndallracingbrakes.com/testimonials.htm

 

To answer your question...the stock pads are made out of sintered iron. They are highly corrosive to every other metal used on your bike. It is obvious when you look at your shiny machine and you realize that you can't seem to get certain areas clean. I don't have that problem. All I can say is, out of all the people I know around here that have tried them (7 that I know personally), one was unhappy. He said that they didn't work well in the rain. I asked him what his installation process was....he said he pulled the old pads out and put the new ones in! This is not good! You have to follow the install procedures and you should make sure that everything on your brake system is free of all of the crap the stock pads were giving off. You should even clean your rotors thoroughly. Take them off and clean all the holes and paint them or polish them out. If you do this, you will love them. The LRB's actually throw a layer down on your rotor and do not wear the surface, only the pad. And they last a long time!

Then you can do something about that corrosion that the stock stuff caused.

 

Mopardave - the quote was from the post above. I can't quote in the normal way as the tick box facility won't work for me for some reason. Got brake dust on, probably..

The Lyndall link only refers to servicing the calipers, which is standard stuff in any workshop really.

It's the makeup of the pad material which makes the difference, as you quite correctly point out, and any change in pad material will make a frictional difference. If Lyndall (racing, note) pads wear the disc rapidly I'm betting they're a far harder compound than stock H-D ones, which have to perform in far wider performance parameters.

Brake dust shows the pads wear quicker than stainless steel discs, and I'm happy with that. The F1 guys run things like carbon fibre brakes, which react better further up the heat range and would be useless at legal speeds, but they still produce dust from the pads wearing.

Hard pads equals less dust and poor cold low speed stopping power, sofetr pads the opposite. That's the engineering compromise, but it's only a soap and water issue anyway.

Now what am I doing wrong with the message replies? Got no access to smilies or anything Gucci like that!!

 

if i'm not mistaken lyndall pad cost an arm and leg or at least what hd cost or more..
I use ebc pads and yes they do put ot some dust but don't eat up rotors and the dust wipes away easy.
what are you guys paying for lyndall pad and from whom..

 

Look...just try to find your way around the site, will ya? When did I ever say that they wear the rotors out? The factory pads do! And they do it with 1950's tech! It would be really nice in a perfect world that brake techs and guys that work on their own bikes would do what they tell you to do in that tech article, but most people don't. Ask around, you will find out that most do not. HD calipers are known to hang up because of that. LRB uses both carbon fiber and kevlar in these pads. Please don't get in on this if you're just gonna cloud the water. The Lyndall Racing Brakes brand of brake pads that are called the Z+ model are for street use. Read it for yourself:

"Our Z Plus compound is a softened version of the Gold Plus compound. It is excellent for general purpose riding and offers a high coefficient of friction. This is the most rotor friendly pad in the industry. It produces no dust, and no noise. The service life generally averages about 18,000 miles." http://www.lyndallracingbrakes.com/products.htm

"Our award winning Z+ Pad has all the features of our premium brake pads
at a surprisingly modest price - Rotor Friendly, Long Lasting, No Dust,
More Stopping Power!
Carbon/Kevlar compound"
http://lyndallracingbrakes.com/merch...Yes&Quantity=1

I'm not gonna argue the point any further. Just read for yourself. There's a whole bunch of magazine reviews to read and you can call them tommorrow yourself. The owner will get on the phone and tell you all about their brake tech and why it is so much better than what comes on our machines.
http://www.lyndallracingbrakes.com/product_reviews.htm

 

I buy mine strait from LRB for $46 per set:
http://www.lyndallracingbrakes.com/a...ide-harley.htm

 

what kind of mileage do you get average on a set of rear/front pads..

 

I've never worn them or the rotors out. I ran them on my 05 for close to twenty thousand miles. The 07's are still like new! They DO NOT wear the rotor.

 

Could someone tell me what a floating rotor is.If it is worth the money and a good place to get them .Do you put them on front and back.Thanks