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Old 01-24-2024, 04:43 AM
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I have the diag manuel the service manuel and the parts cat. And I can't find anything on the subject other than security that's for the red key you know symbol that I have the fob and a ground wire one of the two if not both and I checked it all I just need like somebody said I just need to find a specialist in sporty efis because I'm a mechanic my damn self and I can't figure this out it's not getting fuel I've checked pins the only thing I haven't done on the ECM is is hook it up to that program where it tells you everything that's wrong with it I wish I knew what the name of that program was and where I might be able to get one so I can hook it up and do my own without having to pay somebody
 
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Old 01-24-2024, 04:58 AM
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Okay humour me here...

With the ignition turned off put the run stop switch to run. Press and hold the button on the back of the speedo. Turn on the ignition. See the speedo needle sweep. Release the button on the back of the speedo. See DIAG on the display.

Press and release button on speedo. See "PSSPb" displayed with the P flashing. Press and hold the button until display changes then release button. What do you see on the speedo?

 
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As u asked i did the speedo diag. P=none S=none SP=none last to no resp. Dont have ABS or tach.
 
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As u asked i did the speedo diag. P=none S=none SP=none last to no resp. Dont have ABS or tach. I will even do it again when i get off work and take a video of it and attach it to here

 
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Going back a bit you mentioned the tank was pressurising and I mentioned the vent hose. Can you check that out? The vent runs from the filler neck to the bottom of the tank and then a pipe from there that turns by the battery side cover and down.
 
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I have seen a very slight pressure on my 04 Softail. But slight is normal. The cap is one way in. The vent tube at the top on mine goes into a tube that terminates into a vertical mounted bigger tube is a restrictor.

I sorta assumed this could create a slight pressure. Pressure created by heat from engine or environment. I also thought a 08 Sporty was FI. The fuel pump runs all the time motor runs . Excess fuel pressure is received into tank.

On a CA bike, it could have a vacuum on it. Hard to detect different in the sound when you turn cap.
 

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Yes the 08 is electronic fuel injected but carb air in take. I have checked the relief valve no obstructions no blockage. I'm about to go buy some new relays I'll give you an update after.
 
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Good information has already been provided buy Andy & Paper.

As you seem not to be getting fuel to the injectors, I would revisit your TSM as it may have cut off fuel when the bike was wrecked and may not be functioning correctly.

I have attached a guide that may help, not for a Sportster; however, they are most all the same.

I would revisit the rewiring of the fuel pump etc. and get a factory cable instead of rewiring it myself, if in fact you did not purchase OEM.

Fixing a wrecked bike can be more expensive that buying a new one; however, if you got it for free, the it may be worth the repair cost.NOTE:
The above information, while credible, is worth what you paid for it and should not be considered gospel.
Do due diligence, research and have a H-D Field Service Manual before working on your bike.
You will probably have many opinions and suggestions presented; make sure you research the person providing the helpful information as there are some who provide good information and some who speak out of other orifices with gibberish. You will figure out this quickly.

Good Luck!
 
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Originally Posted by CoolBreeze3646
Good information has already been provided buy Andy & Paper.

As you seem not to be getting fuel to the injectors, I would revisit your TSM as it may have cut off fuel when the bike was wrecked and may not be functioning correctly.

I have attached a guide that may help, not for a Sportster; however, they are most all the same.

I would revisit the rewiring of the fuel pump etc. and get a factory cable instead of rewiring it myself, if in fact you did not purchase OEM.

Fixing a wrecked bike can be more expensive that buying a new one; however, if you got it for free, the it may be worth the repair cost.NOTE:
The above information, while credible, is worth what you paid for it and should not be considered gospel.
Do due diligence, research and have a H-D Field Service Manual before working on your bike.
You will probably have many opinions and suggestions presented; make sure you research the person providing the helpful information as there are some who provide good information and some who speak out of other orifices with gibberish. You will figure out this quickly.

Good Luck!
I have all the manuals I have gone through them I have gone online I have gone through the wiring many times and the fuel pump and everything comes on it works I'm really starting to think that it's either the quick release or the ECM and I don't have the money to be buying OEM parts I have enough mechanical knowledge that I can pretty much do anything except figure out why I'm not getting the fuel the injectors are bad news and they they test fine resistance voltage everything I have no codes this is something that is not electronically mechanical. And I greatly appreciate the information that has been given to me by all but it's becoming repetitive and I have already been through everything that has been suggested and once again I appreciate all that have helped me and give me advice but there's something all of us are overlooking and not thinking about.
 

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The moment you told us the bike has been a wreck none of us know what you are dealing with.

The fact the bike cranks and you can start it by squirting fluid in the throttle body suggests to me the ECM and TSM are functioning.

The ECM has to read the crank position sensor and works the ignition plus a myriad of other things. The TSM provides the circuit to energise the starter relay.

The fact you could read that no codes are stored rules out the relays I think as a none functioning system relay will cause codes and you can crank the engine on the starter motor.

It points toward a fuel problem but I don't want to suggest anything as all those bits are expensive. It needs someway for you to test the bits not throw money at it.
 


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