883 to 1200 conversion - is it worth it?
#21
It's worth it
I have an '07 883L I bought new. I had the dealer install the HD "big bore kit" so the motor is now a 1200. It makes a big difference! I commute to work on Los Angeles freeways and have had no trouble with the bike. It has 10K miles on it now and runs strong. I'm not worried about top speed as much as acceleration and handling. I split lanes everyday on the freeways. The bike saves me time everyday since I don't have to stop - just keep going.
If I want to go fast I get on the VROD.
If I want to go fast I get on the VROD.
#22
I had the NRHS 1250 kit put on my 883 and it had a lot more power but it also had a bigger thirst for oil. Like a quart every 500 miles. Others with 04 and up Sportsters have had the same trouble with their bikes after using the NRHS kit so if you do decide to do it I would avoid NRHS.
NRHS never took this problem lighlty judging from their comments on another forum. It is fixed now so go for it.
#23
The problem stemmed from the new oil squirters that Harley added to the 2004 and up. NRHS used soft rings for longevity and still do in 2003 or less bikes. Now in 2004 and up they use hard rings and there has been no more problems with oil consumption. Suzuki had the same problem when they added oil squirters.
NRHS never took this problem lighlty judging from their comments on another forum. It is fixed now so go for it.
NRHS never took this problem lighlty judging from their comments on another forum. It is fixed now so go for it.
Like I said before, I would avoid using their 1250 kit at least. Not everyone has had a problem with it but if you do you will seriously regret it as it isn't an easy fix since it still hasn't been resolved going on 2 years now.
Last edited by PigInaBlanket; 12-31-2008 at 07:26 PM.
#24
Dude I'm not trying to argue with you and I don't care enough to find the link. All I am saying is that they found the problem and addressed it. If you ask anybody who has had their conversion lately you will find happy oil use free customers.
I get that you don't trust them, I wouldn't either if i was you, they should fix your bike for free. But they did fix the problem.
I get that you don't trust them, I wouldn't either if i was you, they should fix your bike for free. But they did fix the problem.
#25
All I am asking for is proof since NRHS post over on XL Forums and I don't see anywhere where they have said what the fix is. I just posted over there asking if the solution to the problem has been found and what the official fix is so we shall see. By the way TonyHDS just posted this 4 weeks ago when someone asked about a conversion over on XL Forums...
I agree with him completely.
I did the 883 to a nrhs 1250 conversion on my 04.
It is the worst upgrade on my bike, it uses a quart of oil every 500 miles.
There was about 7 of us that did conversions on our rubber mounted sportys
that have deep regrets !
However, I have not heard one complaint from anyone that did the HD or SE conversion.
It is the worst upgrade on my bike, it uses a quart of oil every 500 miles.
There was about 7 of us that did conversions on our rubber mounted sportys
that have deep regrets !
However, I have not heard one complaint from anyone that did the HD or SE conversion.
#26
I guess the only thing I can say is to call them and have them explain it to you. Why wouldn't other kits leak oil? I would imagine that they use different rings from the begining. In all honesty I am not for or against NRHS, but I know that they have a good reputation and I know that they fixed the problem. Now this doesn't help you at all and I realize that. I would be pissed to if I was you. Look its New Years Eve, I'm going to have a good time so I'll try to find the link later.
#27
I just think if they fixed the problem they would have announced it on the forum they post to where people were complaining of the problem. Would make sense wouldn't it if they wanted to be honest?
I agree with your observation that why wouldn't other kits leak oil, that's what we were trying to ask a long time ago on XL Forums but NRHS kept saying it wasn't anything to do with their parts but somehow something must be wrong with the way HD designed things on the engine. It seemed like they were blaming everyone but their parts so it would surely be interesting to finally find out it indeed was some of their parts causing the problem.
Not upset with you I just want to find the truth and have anyone else avoid going through the same thing some of us others have had to go through.
Now go have yourself a good New Years. I'm cooking up some black eyed peas and plan on eating them at midnight and maybe play a little Left 4 Dead on the 360.
I agree with your observation that why wouldn't other kits leak oil, that's what we were trying to ask a long time ago on XL Forums but NRHS kept saying it wasn't anything to do with their parts but somehow something must be wrong with the way HD designed things on the engine. It seemed like they were blaming everyone but their parts so it would surely be interesting to finally find out it indeed was some of their parts causing the problem.
Not upset with you I just want to find the truth and have anyone else avoid going through the same thing some of us others have had to go through.
Now go have yourself a good New Years. I'm cooking up some black eyed peas and plan on eating them at midnight and maybe play a little Left 4 Dead on the 360.
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#29
Thanks Sporty Pig!
I never even heard of eating black eyed peas on New Years for good luck till I came to Virginia and met my wife. It's a tradition I hate to miss now.
Keeping on topic, these black eyed peas will probably upgrade my gas from an 883 in my *** to a 1450 after I eat them. They are definately deadly.
I never even heard of eating black eyed peas on New Years for good luck till I came to Virginia and met my wife. It's a tradition I hate to miss now.
Keeping on topic, these black eyed peas will probably upgrade my gas from an 883 in my *** to a 1450 after I eat them. They are definately deadly.
#30
OK since I am the one who brought up the company, I sent an email to them asking them to clear it up for us. One thing I have heard is that it is better to have your 883 cylinders bored and fitted with new piston and to have your heads redone. Seems that since they are broken in there is less chance of warpage than if you just get new 1200 cylinders and piston. Makes some sense but not sure how true