Touring Models Road King, Road King Custom, Road King Classic, Road Glide, Street Glide, Electra Glide, Electra Glide Classic, and Electra Glide Ultra Classic bikes.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Air Cleaner Filter Question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 8, 2007 | 03:35 AM
  #11  
ragingbull's Avatar
ragingbull
Road Captain
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 534
Likes: 1
From: Lakewood,CA
Default RE: Air Cleaner Filter Question

A little off topic but not much. I wouldn't anyone to ruin their filter . K&N style fiters you can't use any kind of hp air to blow them out or dry them. It damages the cloth element.
 
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2007 | 06:03 AM
  #12  
tpseabird's Avatar
tpseabird
Advanced
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 54
Likes: 0
From:
Default RE: Air Cleaner Filter Question

I thought of switching to the K&N because of it being an oiled filter; however, with less air flow than the SE filter(if the numbers aboveare right) seems like a waste. I am not too worried about water since most users with open systems say it has never been a problem.
 
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2007 | 07:47 AM
  #13  
itsmyforte's Avatar
itsmyforte
Tourer
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 282
Likes: 0
From:
Default RE: Air Cleaner Filter Question

I wonder what the engine actually needs to make the most HP/TQ. I would like to see a CFM number for the stock airbox K&N replacement filter HD-1499.
 
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2007 | 08:22 AM
  #14  
Lost1's Avatar
Lost1
Outstanding HDF Member
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 2,032
Likes: 9
From: Alabama
Default RE: Air Cleaner Filter Question

Here's a bit of factual information to cloud the issue...

Your 88 cid engine at 6000 rpm only needs 122 cfm of air to make max power. This is assuming a volumetric efficiency (VE) of 80%, which is the standard average for most stock engines.
Even using a VE of 100% (which is fairly impossible with a normally aspirated engine) you still only need 153 cfm.

Since few of us ride around with the engine at 6000 rpm all day, a more usable figure would be CFM requirements for say, accelerating with the engine speed between 2500-4500 rpm. In this instance you'll only need 51-92 CFM for the engine to make its max power in this rpm range. Even a stock H-D element with as much as 50% blockage can easily provide this amount of air.
This is why simply changing the stock air filter with a "high-flow" style rarely provides any power or mileage gains by itself.

The only advantage to a higher flow filter would be extended cleaning/replacement intervals, as it can hold more dirt and still flow the required amount of air. But even then, the felt difference would only be at high rpm and the stock filter would have to be extremely dirty to see any difference.
So ultimately, for most bikes air filter selection is more a matter of bling factor and personal taste than actual operational efficiency...
 
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2007 | 09:20 AM
  #15  
NCCopBikeRider's Avatar
NCCopBikeRider
Road Warrior
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,539
Likes: 7
From:
Default RE: Air Cleaner Filter Question

Interesting Observation

Thank You

Ride Em Carry Em
 
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2007 | 10:05 AM
  #16  
im's Avatar
im
Seasoned HDF Member
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 6,057
Likes: 1,115
From:
Default RE: Air Cleaner Filter Question

good info lost1...i am glad i did not drop alot of coin for an a/c set-up...just a k & n in the stock can for my evo
 
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2007 | 10:14 AM
  #17  
Firetender's Avatar
Firetender
Road Warrior
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 1,479
Likes: 4
From: SoCal
Default RE: Air Cleaner Filter Question

I have the SE air filter, and it's an oiled filter. Possibly the elements were changed out in '02 or '03. I also have the BC Overflow, but I like the narrower SE with the smaller round cover (not the Nostalgic).
 
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2007 | 10:34 AM
  #18  
tpseabird's Avatar
tpseabird
Advanced
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 54
Likes: 0
From:
Default RE: Air Cleaner Filter Question

Interesting. Seems like clean ability is still riding the top of reasons for replacement.

TP
 
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2007 | 10:47 AM
  #19  
Lost1's Avatar
Lost1
Outstanding HDF Member
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 2,032
Likes: 9
From: Alabama
Default RE: Air Cleaner Filter Question

ORIGINAL: tpseabird

Interesting. Seems like clean ability is still riding the top of reasons for replacement.

TP
Yep, and for those who aren't aware, the stock '07 element (not sure about previous models) is reusable as well. All that's required is to clean it in soapy water & dry it out.
Pretty cool.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
JonW
2014-2024 Touring Models
1
Jul 20, 2019 09:52 PM
merdahl
2014-2024 Touring Models
1
May 2, 2018 09:39 AM
13RoadKing
General Topics/Tech Tips
8
Mar 17, 2017 05:21 PM
svoracer
Exhaust System Topics
5
Jun 30, 2011 07:49 AM
the_ogre25
EVO
3
Oct 9, 2008 12:20 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:27 PM.