ABS Brake Recall
#51
Response to post #37:
If you do not maintain your motorcycle, you and you alone are responsible if something goes wrong. You are taking a risk every time you ride, so why would you not ensure that everything in your control on that bike is maintained? First of all, other vehicles do have problems and, second of all, even if other vehicles did not have problems, you are going to use that as an excuse for not maintaining your motorcycle?
If you do not maintain your motorcycle, you and you alone are responsible if something goes wrong. You are taking a risk every time you ride, so why would you not ensure that everything in your control on that bike is maintained? First of all, other vehicles do have problems and, second of all, even if other vehicles did not have problems, you are going to use that as an excuse for not maintaining your motorcycle?
#52
Mine's been flushed and is not having issues and I'm not making excuses; that said, sanctimonious lectures about risk and maintenance are entirely unhelpful. I have extensive experience repairing and maintaining all types of vehicles and equipment over 30+ years. Of course other vehicles have problems but this issue renders a vital system inoperable, theoretically from failure to follow a fairly arbitrary maintenance schedule that historically most people have ignored with little consequence. You don't manufacture a vehicle that has a catastrophic failure if service intervals aren't followed to the letter; it's just **** poor design and engineering. If ABS gets gunked up and stops working, the brakes should still function as standard brakes or the entire system should never have been put into production.
I mean we can engineer every single danger in this world for anything that is not properly maintained and sell bikes for $50,000 instead.
HD learned a lesson and now is fixed, just like any other company learns lessons.
Important to point out, that the bike does not lose its entire braking system.
The front OR rear brake will still work in a failure. (from what others posted in here)
We do need to be reasonable, lessons are learn in technology, no product is perfect and it has since been corrected.
Last edited by alarmdoug; 03-14-2018 at 06:07 AM.
#53
I see no indication that Harley has "learned a lesson" and in no way, shape, or form is it now fixed.
#54
Self-Righteous? Sanctimonious? Reprehensible?
"Oh, gee. I didn't change my oil and my motor took a dump. I think the design engineer should have known that I don't follow maintenance schedules, so they owe me a new engine. It's all their fault!"
Ron White said it best: "You can't fix stupid."
"Oh, gee. I didn't change my oil and my motor took a dump. I think the design engineer should have known that I don't follow maintenance schedules, so they owe me a new engine. It's all their fault!"
Ron White said it best: "You can't fix stupid."
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lh4x4 (03-27-2018)
#55
Hahahahaha I doubt either one of those statements is true
I wonder how “reasonable” you’d be feeling if it was your bike?
If I owned one of these model years’ I would likely be having the Chinese ABS death-unit replaced no matter what, whether it was warrantee-covered or on my own dime, whether it was malfunctioning or not. Having a malfunction like this waiting to happen, maybe never, maybe next time I rode it, would make me want to never get on the bike again.
It’s like Russian Roulette! Tell me one time when you used your brakes just for fun, not cos you needed them?
FYI this is me being reasonable. If I was in the OP’s shoes I’d be looking at legal options.
I wonder how “reasonable” you’d be feeling if it was your bike?
If I owned one of these model years’ I would likely be having the Chinese ABS death-unit replaced no matter what, whether it was warrantee-covered or on my own dime, whether it was malfunctioning or not. Having a malfunction like this waiting to happen, maybe never, maybe next time I rode it, would make me want to never get on the bike again.
It’s like Russian Roulette! Tell me one time when you used your brakes just for fun, not cos you needed them?
FYI this is me being reasonable. If I was in the OP’s shoes I’d be looking at legal options.
Last edited by rv7garage; 03-14-2018 at 07:15 AM.
#56
Self-Righteous? Sanctimonious? Reprehensible?
"Oh, gee. I didn't change my oil and my motor took a dump. I think the design engineer should have known that I don't follow maintenance schedules, so they owe me a new engine. It's all their fault!"
Ron White said it best: "You can't fix stupid."
"Oh, gee. I didn't change my oil and my motor took a dump. I think the design engineer should have known that I don't follow maintenance schedules, so they owe me a new engine. It's all their fault!"
Ron White said it best: "You can't fix stupid."
The real issue here is that ABS systems should ALWAYS fail “safe”. This is not debatable!
#58
That said Im not going to wait and see if Harley does a recall on the HCU, Ill just buy one and change it because whether its $300 or $900 for the unit I think my life is worth that. Ill keep the receipt and if theres a recall they can replace it again or refund me. Other manufacturers do that.
#59
That said Im not going to wait and see if Harley does a recall on the HCU, Ill just buy one and change it because whether its $300 or $900 for the unit I think my life is worth that. Ill keep the receipt and if theres a recall they can replace it again or refund me. Other manufacturers do that.
I understand you can now buy just the hydraulic portion, which is apparently the ~$300 option.
#60
In that case, you might want to consider taking yours apart and seeing if you can't clean it out. At the worse, you'll fail and simply buy the replacement you're already considering.
I understand you can now buy just the hydraulic portion, which is apparently the ~$300 option.
I understand you can now buy just the hydraulic portion, which is apparently the ~$300 option.
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ratpick (03-14-2018)