Ultra Classic 2009 and newer vs. Old frame?
#11
I don't think the 09 is worth a few grand over and 06 bike. You can get a "frame brace" for a couple hundred if you want to stiffen the frame up. The early 6 speed trans are geared to tall in my opinion, so you only use 5th unless you are running interstate speed. The stock 96" is a dog just like the stock 88". If money is an issue i would look for an 06 bike and i would even consider a carb version.
#12
There is a general rule in the vehicle market that goes something like: "buy the latest model you can afford with the options you want" unless you can be happy with something at least 10 years old. Vehicles DON'T improve with age, they keep loosing value and fall apart. 10 years is a basic rule of thumb for when the resale value drop starts to slow down.
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#13
I know I want the newest best equipped bike for the money. I want to avoid sales tax. And I really want stay in a $15k to $17k range.
FYI- if you are reading this and thinking about selling.....I Prefer vivid black, no flat/denim black. I like my paint to shine. I will probably keep the search to 2009 and later for the frame 96" or 103" engine and six speed transmission. I will consider an older 96" with six speed for a great price.
If you see something and want to share the information, please pm or email me.
Bobbigham@ yahoo.com
I appreciate the feedback. It gives me hope that I might find a fair deal through a private party.
FYI- if you are reading this and thinking about selling.....I Prefer vivid black, no flat/denim black. I like my paint to shine. I will probably keep the search to 2009 and later for the frame 96" or 103" engine and six speed transmission. I will consider an older 96" with six speed for a great price.
If you see something and want to share the information, please pm or email me.
Bobbigham@ yahoo.com
I appreciate the feedback. It gives me hope that I might find a fair deal through a private party.
#14
If you have the cash in hand, have patience because the something will come up.
I have bought two bikes on Craigs list as Sportster with 138 miles on and a Limited with 78 miles on it. The bikes we brand new less than 6 months and 1 month old respectively.
As mentioned find somthing with out the engine work done, because you do not want someone elses head ache. But get all the Chrome possible, If you don't like just take it off and sell it.
If you are looking for an 09 those are great bikes, get ABS for sure. Be patient because as the season progresses guys will upgrade for the 103. But look and don't be suprised to see 09 with real low miles. Those are great deals.
I have bought two bikes on Craigs list as Sportster with 138 miles on and a Limited with 78 miles on it. The bikes we brand new less than 6 months and 1 month old respectively.
As mentioned find somthing with out the engine work done, because you do not want someone elses head ache. But get all the Chrome possible, If you don't like just take it off and sell it.
If you are looking for an 09 those are great bikes, get ABS for sure. Be patient because as the season progresses guys will upgrade for the 103. But look and don't be suprised to see 09 with real low miles. Those are great deals.
#15
Great suggestions here.
I just need to keep up on a daily review of cycle trader and craigslist, and maybe this site and see what shows up.
It's funny the season has just started for most areas of the country but here, in the AZ, it's going to take a break from late June through August. July might be a ideal time for finding a deal in the desert, maybe not so much elsewhere.
I just need to keep up on a daily review of cycle trader and craigslist, and maybe this site and see what shows up.
It's funny the season has just started for most areas of the country but here, in the AZ, it's going to take a break from late June through August. July might be a ideal time for finding a deal in the desert, maybe not so much elsewhere.
#16
Considering adding a touring model to the garage.
Anyone know if the frame change and motor difference, from 88 to 96 ci from say a 2006 to a 2009 and later make much difference?
I can find some low mileage 2006 ultra classics for less than $15k, but most 2009 and later are closer to $19k or more.
Is it worth the difference? Or are dealers discounting enough to may a new one the way to go. I think they are around $22k before taxes and dealer fees? Will they discount $20000?
Feedback welcome?
Anyone know if the frame change and motor difference, from 88 to 96 ci from say a 2006 to a 2009 and later make much difference?
I can find some low mileage 2006 ultra classics for less than $15k, but most 2009 and later are closer to $19k or more.
Is it worth the difference? Or are dealers discounting enough to may a new one the way to go. I think they are around $22k before taxes and dealer fees? Will they discount $20000?
Feedback welcome?
edit - I would buy a modified bike in a heartbeat. I had the dealer do a 107 and D&Ds to my bike to get the bike where I need it to be performance wise. Necessary imo. Why rule out a bike if it was done by a reputable shop? I guarantee, a bike with a 107 isn't a nightmare if it was done by a reputable shop. It will run better, faster, and as long, (if not longer due to reduced heat generated by those damn cats).
You'll have to find a pretty desperate seller to get a 09 Ultra for the price you are willing to pay. Possible, but look the bike over carefully. Tires and repairs can add up fast.
Last edited by nevada72; 05-09-2012 at 01:27 PM.
#17
A frame brace does not equate the new frame. Been there, done that.
07 and 08 are geared too tall. 07 lacks the cush drive in the rear hub. (although it can be added) Been there as well.
09 or newer is a whole different bike. No comparison, and WELL worth the extra money.
And the 96 is nowhere near as big a dog as the 88. Not even close.
07 and 08 are geared too tall. 07 lacks the cush drive in the rear hub. (although it can be added) Been there as well.
09 or newer is a whole different bike. No comparison, and WELL worth the extra money.
And the 96 is nowhere near as big a dog as the 88. Not even close.
#18
#19
I have a 10 Limited. spent thousands on it. love it however I wish sometimes I still had my 05 ultra and no payment plan.
When I sold it to a buddy it had 65k on it now in the 80k range. If you are looking for a touring bike I personally would say skip 06 and 07 these are transition years so to speak.IMO
When I sold it to a buddy it had 65k on it now in the 80k range. If you are looking for a touring bike I personally would say skip 06 and 07 these are transition years so to speak.IMO
#20
I have a 10 Limited. spent thousands on it. love it however I wish sometimes I still had my 05 ultra and no payment plan.
When I sold it to a buddy it had 65k on it now in the 80k range. If you are looking for a touring bike I personally would say skip 06 and 07 these are transition years so to speak.IMO
When I sold it to a buddy it had 65k on it now in the 80k range. If you are looking for a touring bike I personally would say skip 06 and 07 these are transition years so to speak.IMO
The basic frame is, basically the same back to 1979. But the mounts for major parts were changed to use the new fuel tank.
The coil, seat mounts, and motor mounts were moved to make room for the 6 gallon fuel tank. That is just the obvious changes.