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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 06:45 PM
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I just put the Touring Link on my 2010 SG. It doesn't fit with Vance and Hines True Duel headers. It doesn't fit with HD passenger floor boards. No tech support... I called them when it wouldn't bolt right up. The instructions say to do a vehicle or chassis alignment in accordance with the service manual. There isn't a chassis alignment in the service manual and I could find anyone that has done one. Tech support says take it to a local HD shop for the alignment. They put the product out there before thinking completly through. Is it worth the money? I don't think so.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by diggerv
I just put the Touring Link on my 2010 SG. It doesn't fit with Vance and Hines True Duel headers. It doesn't fit with HD passenger floor boards. No tech support... I called them when it wouldn't bolt right up. The instructions say to do a vehicle or chassis alignment in accordance with the service manual. There isn't a chassis alignment in the service manual and I could find anyone that has done one. Tech support says take it to a local HD shop for the alignment. They put the product out there before thinking completly through. Is it worth the money? I don't think so.

At this point I think they are trying to preserve their market for a motorcycle model that no longer needs it.

I'm willing to concede that the old frame needed help in this area but the new frame, not so much.
 

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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 08:21 PM
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Great info. This is what I was looking for. Sounds like perhaps I should hold off on this. It needs to be worth the effort and money!
 
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Old Aug 26, 2012 | 09:07 AM
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If you read several posts on here and see the research done, the new tourers have the same basic rearend/suspension issues that the older bikes have. The basic design of the suspension and engine mounting has not changed.
Lets pretend I'm from Missouri... Show me.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2012 | 09:36 AM
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I guess that I haven't really seen the need for this, yet..
Mine's an 09 w/a 18 inch front wheel, probably the same set up that you have.

My question is why do you think that you need it, or what makes you think that you do?
 
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Old Aug 26, 2012 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by stro1965
Lets pretend I'm from Missouri... Show me.
The below thread is what I was talking about. Take a look at some of the police motor unit tests of '09 and later bikes, also.

https://www.hdforums.com/forum/touri...e-exposed.html
 
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Old Aug 26, 2012 | 05:44 PM
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Just put it on my 08 RKC. Noticed an improvement when driving over metal grate surfaces (bridges) and grooved pavement. Much, not all, of the wobble is gone. So far, I'm impressed.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2012 | 06:06 PM
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I'm getting the Sta-Bo bushings. They are highly recommended by those in the know here on HDF.

I haven't had a big wobble on my 11 Ultra. But, the bike has gotten a bit squirrely on fast sweepers. Fairly disconcerting. I hear you can feel the difference at parking lot speeds. For $100 bucks it's worth a shot.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2012 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by tem2169
The below thread is what I was talking about. Take a look at some of the police motor unit tests of '09 and later bikes, also.

https://www.hdforums.com/forum/touri...e-exposed.html

I read this post with interest - and then just as quickly dismissed it. I've read a good number of Graham's posts over the years and am not disrespecting him in any way whatsoever. I do, however, wonder what his actual credentials are with regard to the assessment he has made. He cites no references and has not proven that the so called "death wobble" has anything to do with the rubber mount system employed by Harley Davidson, what so ever. Being a long time Harley owner does not actually qualify you to make these sorts of sweeping claims. Bottom line is you're going to have to do better than this. While the rubber mount design may contribute I want to see a propper analysis.

Personally, if I was concerned about the so called "death wobble" on my 2010 I'd install a stearing head damper.

Full disclosure, I am a practicing engineer and my first degree in engineering was from Imperial College of Science and Technology (Graham will have heard of it).
 

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Old Aug 26, 2012 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by davessworks

Personally, if I was concerned about the so called "death wobble" on my 2010 I'd install a stearing head damper.
Which does nothing for lateral swing arm movement - the supposed reason for high speed wobble.

No disrespect intended, but I don't have a ton of faith that, by virtue of being an engineer, one knows all about mechanical things. If one is an engineer working in the motorcycle industry, especially in suspension design, then I start listening. So, for that reason, I wouldn't listen to you any sooner than I would listen to GRB - unless your credentials are as mentioned. Are they?

I made my decision based on GR Browns thread - by taking fabrik8ter's advice. I don't know if he's an engineer or not. I just know he knows his stuff when it comes to Harleys.
 

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