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Old Jul 2, 2013 | 06:00 AM
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Thanks for the great tips. I'll check the stator and reg. Maybe it's time to replace battery anyway, just for the peace of mind.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2013 | 06:50 AM
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A battery's decreased capacity will first be noticed when cold cranking IMO. I don't think this sounds like a battery problem - u were on the road so basically the battery is out of the picture. To keep the battery topped up the regulator/stator needs to keep about 14.5VDC on the grid. What happened in your case was that you had a power sag. Check the connections in to and out of the regulator. It is important that the regulator be properly grounded to perform properly.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2013 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 3/4 life crisis
Thanks for the great tips. I'll check the stator and reg. Maybe it's time to replace battery anyway, just for the peace of mind.
You may want to test your battery first
When you crank the engine the voltage should not drop below 9.6 Volts measured directly between the starter motor (+) lead and the frame; then directly across the battery terminals you should not find a difference greater than 0.5 Vdc.

Most "12V" starter motors are designed for a nominal voltage of 10 Volts under load and 15 seconds duty cycles. If you have more than 10 Volts on the starter motor leads while cranking you are not using its full power and if you have less than 10.5V on your battery terminals this means the battery doesn't deliver its full power because it has too much internal resistance.

When you have loose power connections (battery, frame or starter) the battery voltage stays high and the starter motor voltage goes low.
 

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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 08:07 AM
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I have a question.. Can the stator still be ok if the output is @ 32 V AC @ 2k but the infinity reading is not there?
 
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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by kyote
I have a question.. Can the stator still be ok if the output is @ 32 V AC @ 2k but the infinity reading is not there?
What do you mean by infinity reading ?
 
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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 08:26 AM
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Thumbs up evo classic sticky

There's a GREAT sticky in the evo classic forum on how to diagnose your charging system.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Expat1
What do you mean by infinity reading ?
The reading between each pin and ground...

"With the red lead, touch each contact on the motor side (stator) of the plug (the part stuck in the case). Depending on if your case has a male or female plug, if you can't see the metal part/pin of the plug, you can put a paper clip in the hole and touch the paperclip with your meter red. Meter reading should be infinity on all pins. If it isn't, your stator is shorted to the case, replace"

But I still get this...
" Check resistance between the two stator plug pins. Should be fairly low. My Book says 0.2-0.4 ohms.

Set meter to AC Volts, 100V scale. Attach each meter lead to a stator pin. Start bike. Voltage should vary with engine speed. Specs are in your shop manual, but 35V at a couple thousand RPM is probably about right. My book says 19-26 V / 1K RPM"

Is my stator toast? or regulator??
I'm getting the correct AC voltage to the Regulator...but nothing more than 12v @ battery...
Can the stator still put out the correct voltage if it's shorted..??

Reason why I'm asking is.. I had the same readings before.. I had bought a new stator..but just for grins I replaced the regulator with one i had layin around... and it was charging again... that was 5-6000 miles ago..
So I have a new stator..but would rather have to replace the regulator seeing that it's a much easier job..
 

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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ironoxide
There's a GREAT sticky in the evo classic forum on how to diagnose your charging system.
I know.. thats what I'm going by...
 
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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 09:26 AM
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Batteries have a 5 yr. life, start with the Battery.
If you do need a VR get it from Cycleelectric.com
 
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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by kyote
The reading between each pin and ground...

"With the red lead, touch each contact on the motor side (stator) of the plug (the part stuck in the case). Depending on if your case has a male or female plug, if you can't see the metal part/pin of the plug, you can put a paper clip in the hole and touch the paperclip with your meter red. Meter reading should be infinity on all pins. If it isn't, your stator is shorted to the case, replace"

But I still get this...
" Check resistance between the two stator plug pins. Should be fairly low. My Book says 0.2-0.4 ohms.

Set meter to AC Volts, 100V scale. Attach each meter lead to a stator pin. Start bike. Voltage should vary with engine speed. Specs are in your shop manual, but 35V at a couple thousand RPM is probably about right. My book says 19-26 V / 1K RPM"

Is my stator toast? or regulator??
I'm getting the correct AC voltage to the Regulator...but nothing more than 12v @ battery...
Can the stator still put out the correct voltage if it's shorted..??
You have 3 identical sets of daisy-chained windings that connect together on one side (in the stator).
You always measure 2 sets of coils by connecting the voltmeter to wires AB AC BC.
These coils should never be related to ground that's why you look for the 'infinity' ohmic value.

When the engine runs and everything is disconnected you can read AC voltage between wires AB AC BC because we have a permanent magnet to produce the field.

Connect these 3 wires to the regulator and put a dummy load (bulb) on the 2 wire connector. Start the engine.
On the Bat+ and Bat- leads of the regulator look for presence of AC voltage (possible leak) coming from one or more diodes and measure the DC voltage.
Usually when your battery is capable of starting the engine and you can see your lights dim at idle, this means you have charge. The voltage you measure along the circuit will indicate the condition of the battery.
 
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