Touring Models Road King, Road King Custom, Road King Classic, Road Glide, Street Glide, Electra Glide, Electra Glide Classic, and Electra Glide Ultra Classic bikes.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

2-1-2 problem

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 8, 2014 | 12:25 PM
  #1  
dmercer3's Avatar
dmercer3
Thread Starter
|
Cruiser
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 111
Likes: 0
From: virginia
Default 2-1-2 problem

Seeking some advice. I have already sent a note to Fuel Moto but trying to fix this today.

I have the 2-1-2 ceramic headers installed on my 13 road king, got about 600 miles on them.

I ran into a problem yesterday while getting my 1k service done at Whits Harley in Winchester VA.

They stated the front exhaust header was bumping up against the bracket for the rear brake and causing damage.

I have included a few pictures, but basically the harley mechanic told me there should have been an after market bracket with the header pipes to prevent this.

I came home, still have the original packaging for the 2-1-2, looked through the box and I did not have any bracket that shipped with my pipes. Sure enough I looked at the instructions and it did reference a "fuel moto bracket".

Not sure what to do here but I told the mechanic I would fix it after getting with you guys.

Do you have any advice?

I tried loosening up the header bolts and pulling the pipes away from the front brake bracket, however, as soon as I tighten the header bolts down again the pipe goes right back to about 1/16" (maybe closer) of an inch from the bracket. There is some damage to the header pipe because of this.
 
Attached Thumbnails 2-1-2 problem-pic1-pipe-close-to-front-brake-bracket.jpg  
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2014 | 02:36 PM
  #2  
prostar's Avatar
prostar
Club Member
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,760
Likes: 47
From: N. Texas
Default

I seem to have same problem on mine. please post the fix
 
Attached Thumbnails 2-1-2 problem-fuel-moto.jpg  
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2014 | 04:51 PM
  #3  
skydude426's Avatar
skydude426
Club Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,668
Likes: 419
Riders Club Member
Default

I don't have this problem. I have a good 1/4" of clearance. I wonder what the difference is. My bike is a 2012 Ultra and the head pipe is the non coated stainless steal Jackpot 2-1-2.
 
Attached Thumbnails 2-1-2 problem-image-1298777402.jpg  
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2014 | 05:13 PM
  #4  
Teardrop's Avatar
Teardrop
Road Warrior
15 Year Member
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,290
Likes: 20
From: Salem, Or
Default

I can't tell by the picture but I think you have it installed wrong. I would take it off and start over again.

Sent from my SCH-I535 using IB AutoGroup
 

Last edited by Teardrop; Jun 8, 2014 at 05:22 PM.
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2014 | 05:45 PM
  #5  
wurk_truk's Avatar
wurk_truk
Outstanding HDF Member
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 2,543
Likes: 19
From: Ashland Ohio
Default

Originally Posted by Teardrop
I can't tell by the picture but I think you have it installed wrong. I would take it off and start over again.

Sent from my SCH-I535 using IB AutoGroup
I tend to agree. OP. can you post some more PICs for us to look at. If this was the standard everyday Fuelmoto pipe? That pipe should fit with NO issues.

What exhaust gaskets did you use? The tapered stock or the SE flats?
 
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2014 | 07:28 PM
  #6  
dmercer3's Avatar
dmercer3
Thread Starter
|
Cruiser
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 111
Likes: 0
From: virginia
Default

Originally Posted by Teardrop
I can't tell by the picture but I think you have it installed wrong. I would take it off and start over again.

Sent from my SCH-I535 using IB AutoGroup
Originally Posted by wurk_truk
I tend to agree. OP. can you post some more PICs for us to look at. If this was the standard everyday Fuelmoto pipe? That pipe should fit with NO issues.

What exhaust gaskets did you use? The tapered stock or the SE flats?
I will add some more pics asap.

My bike was brand new so I was able to use the stock gaskets. I do have some new ones (standard) just in case I had to take the pipes back off... but you know whats NOT fun, I went to take them off this morning and start over.. and the damn exchange bolt is stripped out or seized up (there is no bolt on the top to get leverage... just that flat head... so damn annoying).

I have no idea how anyone could install a 2-1-2 pipe "wrong" though.

It was a serious pain in the **** to get the things into the headers (stretching the back one and twisting and pulling and whatnot)... I just dont see how there could be ANY other way to have gotten the damn thing in place...

I have read a few other have had the exact issue, are we all just THAT bad at a simple install???
 

Last edited by dmercer3; Jun 8, 2014 at 07:32 PM.
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2014 | 07:39 PM
  #7  
dmercer3's Avatar
dmercer3
Thread Starter
|
Cruiser
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 111
Likes: 0
From: virginia
Default pics

pics... not sure if this helps...
 
Attached Thumbnails 2-1-2 problem-20140608_203316.jpg   2-1-2 problem-20140608_203405.jpg   2-1-2 problem-20140608_203429.jpg   2-1-2 problem-20140608_203511.jpg  
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2014 | 08:09 PM
  #8  
Teardrop's Avatar
Teardrop
Road Warrior
15 Year Member
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,290
Likes: 20
From: Salem, Or
Default

Is there anyway you can get a pick of the bracket by the transmission?
 
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2014 | 08:25 PM
  #9  
103 sedona orange's Avatar
103 sedona orange
Ultimate HDF Member
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 9,850
Likes: 220
From: Sacramento, CA.
Default

Did you tighten down your exhaust manifold flange to head, per HD Manual? You just don't tighten them up any old way. There is a sequence & torque specs. This may not change anything I just wanted to put that out there. You already know you need the bracket.
 
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2014 | 08:31 PM
  #10  
Geezer glider's Avatar
Geezer glider
Tourer
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 434
Likes: 2
From: Wisconsin
Default

I'm kinda confused by your "exchange bolt" comment, not sure what you mean by that? I have the 2-1-2 back on my 2010 ultra, just reinstalled Friday. My pipes are at least 2 years old, maybe they changed something since? You should have a bracket welded on the header where the two come together that will bolt up to the bracket mounted to the transmission, (is this the exchange bolt your talking about?)that should hold the header outward leaving about 1/4 inch of space to the brake mech. I would think that it's about the same for the stock header. When installing the header onto the cylinders, I find tilting the bottom of the header upward to help. The flat head bolt at the transmission has a square shank that will hold the bolt from spinning, you just have to push downward on it while you spin on the nut. Pics without the heat shields might make seeing things easier. I also find having an expander helpful, especially for the crossover. You screw up the gasket there, you will have a leak.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:42 AM.