2-1-2 problem
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From: virginia
I'm kinda confused by your "exchange bolt" comment, not sure what you mean by that? I have the 2-1-2 back on my 2010 ultra, just reinstalled Friday. My pipes are at least 2 years old, maybe they changed something since? You should have a bracket welded on the header where the two come together that will bolt up to the bracket mounted to the transmission, (is this the exchange bolt your talking about?)that should hold the header outward leaving about 1/4 inch of space to the brake mech. I would think that it's about the same for the stock header. When installing the header onto the cylinders, I find tilting the bottom of the header upward to help. The flat head bolt at the transmission has a square shank that will hold the bolt from spinning, you just have to push downward on it while you spin on the nut. Pics without the heat shields might make seeing things easier. I also find having an expander helpful, especially for the crossover. You screw up the gasket there, you will have a leak.
If you do not have sufficient clearance at the brake pedal it simply means the pipe is mounted slighly inward and needs a slight adjustment at the mounting bracket. This bracket is slotted for this specific purpose, all you need to do it loosen the bolt slightly, pull the pipe away from the bike and retighten. If you need any help you are welcome to contact us.
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The USA's Leader V-Twin EFI & Performance www.fuelmotousa.com
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**Update** just noticed the picture in post #11 and can see that the pipe needs to come away from the frame a bit based on where the mounting bracket on the pipe is in relation to the trans mount/bolt
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From: virginia
I am planning on attacking this tonight. Jamie commented that it may take some extra effort to pry the pipes further away due to them settling in with the heat cycles etc. It makes sense and Im going to give this a shot.
As always great support from fuel moto.
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From: Jackson, Ohio
I will add some more pics asap.
My bike was brand new so I was able to use the stock gaskets. I do have some new ones (standard) just in case I had to take the pipes back off... but you know whats NOT fun, I went to take them off this morning and start over.. and the damn exchange bolt is stripped out or seized up (there is no bolt on the top to get leverage... just that flat head... so damn annoying).
I have no idea how anyone could install a 2-1-2 pipe "wrong" though.
It was a serious pain in the **** to get the things into the headers (stretching the back one and twisting and pulling and whatnot)... I just dont see how there could be ANY other way to have gotten the damn thing in place...
I have read a few other have had the exact issue, are we all just THAT bad at a simple install???
My bike was brand new so I was able to use the stock gaskets. I do have some new ones (standard) just in case I had to take the pipes back off... but you know whats NOT fun, I went to take them off this morning and start over.. and the damn exchange bolt is stripped out or seized up (there is no bolt on the top to get leverage... just that flat head... so damn annoying).
I have no idea how anyone could install a 2-1-2 pipe "wrong" though.
It was a serious pain in the **** to get the things into the headers (stretching the back one and twisting and pulling and whatnot)... I just dont see how there could be ANY other way to have gotten the damn thing in place...
I have read a few other have had the exact issue, are we all just THAT bad at a simple install???
Should not really be necessary to pull or twist as any headpipe will install easily if you install them using the proper technique.Finesse the pipe up into the head pipe openings installing the rear pipe into the head opening a little ahead of inserting the front pipe. Take your time and you’ll be amazed how easily they do install after you figure it out.
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OP looks like you're on your way to solving the problem.
On another note, was it a misprint or did Whitt's H-D in Manassas buy Grove's H-D in Winchester and convert it to Whitt's H-D also? I frequent both of those dealerships and was wondering if there had been some sort of change of ownership.
On another note, was it a misprint or did Whitt's H-D in Manassas buy Grove's H-D in Winchester and convert it to Whitt's H-D also? I frequent both of those dealerships and was wondering if there had been some sort of change of ownership.
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From: virginia
OP looks like you're on your way to solving the problem.
On another note, was it a misprint or did Whitt's H-D in Manassas buy Grove's H-D in Winchester and convert it to Whitt's H-D also? I frequent both of those dealerships and was wondering if there had been some sort of change of ownership.
On another note, was it a misprint or did Whitt's H-D in Manassas buy Grove's H-D in Winchester and convert it to Whitt's H-D also? I frequent both of those dealerships and was wondering if there had been some sort of change of ownership.