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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 02:36 PM
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Some Find Problems with New Helmet Law - A new motorcycle helmet law is going into effect Tuesday, but some riders – and even a safety official – have concerns with its implementation.

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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 02:57 PM
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That is unbelieveable!
 
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Some Find Problems with New Helmet Law - A new motorcycle helmet law is going into effect Tuesday, but some riders – and even a safety official – have concerns with its implementation.

http://www.brainbucketmag.com/News/a.../sid=2864.html
Figured it was North Carolina. Hope the Protest Rally New YearsHas a Major Turnout...

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We have had the helmet law here in N.J. for a while now but no problems with LEO's about what type of helmet, just as long as you are wearing one.
 
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According to the new law, al helmets must meet FMVSS-218. Aren't DOT helmets tested to those standards anyway?
 
Old Dec 29, 2007 | 03:38 PM
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First, I live in FL and am glad this is a "Pro Choice" helmet state. I ride in NC several times a year and they have had a helmet law for years. I guess what I didn't know was that to-date, anything on your head apparently has qualified as a legal helmet in NC.

Alot is being made of the fact that under the new law the helmet has to meet the FMVSS 218 specification, but that is already a requirementfor DOT certification, it's not an additional requirement.

I guess part of the problem in NC arises from the fact that they are looking for the FMVSS 218 label, which is located inside the helmet. Checking the label would require a demand by the LEO that the helmet be removed and that would require either consent or a search warrant.
 
Old Dec 29, 2007 | 03:40 PM
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Here in Colorado, I'm forced to wear a helmet because I'm under 18, but I don't know if we have to wear a certain helmet. My helmet is a Bell Toptex from 1977. Once it's May 3, I'll be helmet free. Let those who ride decide.
 
Old Dec 29, 2007 | 04:34 PM
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Alot is being made of the fact that under the new law the helmet has to meet the FMVSS 218 specification, but that is already a requirementfor DOT certification, it's not an additional requirement.

I guess part of the problem in NC arises from the fact that they are looking for the FMVSS 218 label, which is located inside the helmet. Checking the label would require a demand by the LEO that the helmet be removed and that would require either consent or a search warrant.
I have a new HJC modular full face (Harley Davidson System II) helmet.
It does not have aFMVSS 218label or taganyhere on it, .
It has DOT on the back of it and the obligatory "personal injury warning" tag on the inside and that is all.
I ride thru N.C. quite often (as a matter of fact, I just rode thru there yesterday), so if they're looking for this "tag" on mine, they aren't going to find it.
 
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First, I live in FL and am glad this is a "Pro Choice" helmet state. I ride in NC several times a year and they have had a helmet law for years. I guess what I didn't know was that to-date, anything on your head apparently has qualified as a legal helmet in NC.

Alot is being made of the fact that under the new law the helmet has to meet the FMVSS 218 specification, but that is already a requirementfor DOT certification, it's not an additional requirement.

I guess part of the problem in NC arises from the fact that they are looking for the FMVSS 218 label, which is located inside the helmet. Checking the label would require a demand by the LEO that the helmet be removed and that would require either consent or a search warrant.
Now, I see what all of the fuss is about. It's not the requirement itself, it's the enforcement of it. Thanks for the info!
 
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I was at a HD dealership today and they told me my ACC carbon fiber helmet was not legal. I sent it off to ACC to get the DOT up dated fix since it failed the DOT test and they stuck two stickers in my helmet. HD dealer said they had to be sown into the liner.

All I got to say is LEO tickets me I know its his job and I will not hassle him. I am sure he doesnt want to do it anyways since a lot of them ride around here. I will fight it in court even if I loose every time just to take up the courts time and I promise to take as much time as I possibly can with the case. I will work hard arguing the case just to try to drag it out to the length of at least two cases if not three or four. I want it to be costly for the courts time. I might even get an attorney and instruct him if you cant win then waste time and lots of it. If all the bikers in NC do this then they may reconsider the law after a few hundred cases. If we are going to loose then make it tuff on the court. They will catch on quick to our actions I promise you. The judges will hate to see Helmet Cases. I do not plan to give up my helmet because it is DOT approved even if the DOT sticker is a stick on instead of sown in.
 



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