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Old Jan 29, 2023 | 02:03 AM
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I’ll preface this by saying the stock Harley LED light is much better than the older halogens. However, with everything else Harley there’s always room for improvement. I’ve been looking for a brighter headlight for my heritage. I was hoping Baja designs sold one, but it only looks like they sell one for the Lowrider S. Has anybody replaced their headlights or does anybody know if the Lowrider S could be modified for the heritage?
 
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Old Jan 29, 2023 | 06:00 AM
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I’ve been running the JW Seaker interactive headlight, it’s ridiculously priced and worth every penny.

https://www.jwspeaker.com/adaptive-2...cle-headlight/
 
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Old Jan 29, 2023 | 06:52 AM
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I run the JW as well, I don't like the color though.
JW states this is intentional to resemble a traditional bulb color.
Unfortunately, with everyone going LED driving lights now the colors don't match.
 
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I have the Baja Designs LP4 on my Low Rider ST and it's insanely bright. It's an excellent light. On high beam it gives 100% output power, and the dipped beam is adjustable from 0 to 100% in 10% increments.

You could probably figure out how to mount one to your Heritage - but would need to fab up some mounts.

Your other option would be to add some more powerful auxiliary lights - look at offerings from Denali and Clearwater as a start.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2023 | 09:18 AM
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I've said it a thousand times before and it bears repeating another thousand times.
There is no better value in LED lighting for your Harley than the Sunpie lights sold on Amazon.

Are there brighter options?
Probably.

Are there options with better performance/light patterns?
Probably.

Are there options that perform this well, at this price point?
Probably not.

For another brand to be of equal or better value, it needs to perform as well per dollar, and I cannot be convinced that another brand performs 6-8 times as well, but there are many out there with price point in the $600-$800 range.

https://a.co/d/6i9XujJ
 
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Old Jan 29, 2023 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by dmonger
I’ll preface this by saying the stock Harley LED light is much better than the older halogens. However, with everything else Harley there’s always room for improvement. I’ve been looking for a brighter headlight for my heritage. I was hoping Baja designs sold one, but it only looks like they sell one for the Lowrider S. Has anybody replaced their headlights or does anybody know if the Lowrider S could be modified for the heritage?
I went down this road too. The LED headlight on the Fat Bob is okay; some say it lights up the whole world (and, in comparison to some nasty-*** old-school sealed beam incandescent headlight, it does) but I find it paltry compared to the average car.

I bought an aftermarket "Hammerhead" LED, that claimed to be brighter. And it was, marginally. Like, 3% brighter when I measured it. Hell of a waste of money, fortunately they let me return it. If my headlight was broken by a rock or something, then the Hammerhead would be a good replacement, but as an upgrade? No way.

Then I went Denali, and the heavens opened and the angels descended and I achieved true enLightenment. A pair of D4s light up the world way the hell better than any replacement headlight would. With a couple of D4s set to half-floodlight/half-spotlight, I find that I've got more light spewing out of the front of my bike, in a wider pattern and further down the road, than any car on the road and more than most big-rig trucks. And that's with the D4s on 30% brightness! I can't turn them on higher than 30% during low beam operation, or I get flashed by oncoming drivers and I don't want to blind them, so during low beam times they're set to run at 30%. When high beams are appropriate, I have them set to come on at 100% and I still giggle like a schoolgirl at how much light they put out.

On the subject of the JW Speaker Adaptive headlight, I had one of those on my prior bike, and it cost a fortune, and I loved it. I loved the technology, how it progressively lights up more of the side of the road as you turn, etc. BUT -- after having the Denalis, I can honestly say not only don't I miss the JW Speaker, but I don't even get the point of it, since the Denalis throw a much wider beam pattern than the Adaptive headlight ever did, and the combination of a stock headlight and the D4s results in much more light on the road, a wider and further pattern, and I have them mounted low so they even work as fog lights too.

If you've got a crash bar and don't mind having some accessory lights on, I think you'll be way happier with a couple of D4s than you ever would be with any aftermarket headlight. I was so happy with the D4s that I added a pair of D3s, spotlights that light up the road for at least 2/3 of a mile. As an IBA rider, I ride a lot in out of the way places, and sometimes deep into the night, and I can say that a mix of D4s and D3s are lighting heaven.

They're not cheap lights, but a pair of D4s and wiring and everything cost less than the JW Speaker or the Hammerhead, and provide way way way way way way way way more lumens, so I think it's the better way to go.

I keep meaning to do a full review on the four stages of lighting (like engine upgrades, Stage 1 through Stage 4). Maybe next week sometime.
 

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Originally Posted by FatBob2018
I went down this road too. The LED headlight on the Fat Bob is okay; some say it lights up the whole world (and, in comparison to some nasty-*** old-school sealed beam incandescent headlight, it does) but I find it paltry compared to the average car.

I bought an aftermarket "Hammerhead" LED, that claimed to be brighter. And it was, marginally. Like, 3% brighter when I measured it. Hell of a waste of money, fortunately they let me return it. If my headlight was broken by a rock or something, then the Hammerhead would be a good replacement, but as an upgrade? No way.

Then I went Denali, and the heavens opened and the angels descended and I achieved true enLightenment. A pair of D4s light up the world way the hell better than any replacement headlight would. With a couple of D4s set to half-floodlight/half-spotlight, I find that I've got more light spewing out of the front of my bike, in a wider pattern and further down the road, than any car on the road and more than most big-rig trucks. And that's with the D4s on 30% brightness! I can't turn them on higher than 30% during low beam operation, or I get flashed by oncoming drivers and I don't want to blind them, so during low beam times they're set to run at 30%. When high beams are appropriate, I have them set to come on at 100% and I still giggle like a schoolgirl at how much light they put out.

On the subject of the JW Speaker Adaptive headlight, I had one of those on my prior bike, and it cost a fortune, and I loved it. I loved the technology, how it progressively lights up more of the side of the road as you turn, etc. BUT -- after having the Denalis, I can honestly say not only don't I miss the JW Speaker, but I don't even get the point of it, since the Denalis throw a much wider beam pattern than the Adaptive headlight ever did, and the combination of a stock headlight and the D4s results in much more light on the road, a wider and further pattern, and I have them mounted low so they even work as fog lights too.

If you've got a crash bar and don't mind having some accessory lights on, I think you'll be way happier with a couple of D4s than you ever would be with any aftermarket headlight. I was so happy with the D4s that I added a pair of D3s, spotlights that light up the road for at least 2/3 of a mile. As an IBA rider, I ride a lot in out of the way places, and sometimes deep into the night, and I can say that a mix of D4s and D3s are lighting heaven.

They're not cheap lights, but a pair of D4s and wiring and everything cost less than the JW Speaker or the Hammerhead, and provide way way way way way way way way more lumens, so I think it's the better way to go.

I keep meaning to do a full review on the four stages of lighting (like engine upgrades, Stage 1 through Stage 4). Maybe next week sometime.
I am trying to keep my bike as clean as possible so adding lights to the crash bar is more than likely a no go. Though I do see Denali sells a 7in headlight so I may try that one out. It’s just a little depressing that there’s not a lot of options for the newer Softails. When I had my Street Glide my Custom dynamic headlight was amazing. But alas, that’s another company that doesn’t make one model specific.
 
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Originally Posted by dmonger
I am trying to keep my bike as clean as possible so adding lights to the crash bar is more than likely a no go. Though I do see Denali sells a 7in headlight so I may try that one out. It’s just a little depressing that there’s not a lot of options for the newer Softails. When I had my Street Glide my Custom dynamic headlight was amazing. But alas, that’s another company that doesn’t make one model specific.
Harley has two aftermarket LED 7" headlight options. One is a projector LED that is just over $600 and the other is an adaptive that is over $900. I know the problem, why none of the suppliers are putting the four bolt mounts on their headlights is a mystery to me. I would have thought CD would have been all over this.
 
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Originally Posted by $tonecold
Harley has two aftermarket LED 7" headlight options. One is a projector LED that is just over $600 and the other is an adaptive that is over $900. I know the problem, why none of the suppliers are putting the four bolt mounts on their headlights is a mystery to me. I would have thought CD would have been all over this.
JW Speaker actually makes Harley's adaptive headlight and possibly more of them. The JW headlight can be had for a couple hundred less than the Harley branded
 
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I bought the Custom Dynamics Adaptive II headlight for my 2019 FLHTP. I had the Harley LED Daymaker on the bike and the CD adaptive II is much better. The Harley LED left dark spots and the CD is better aimed between the low and high beam.

I bought the Custom Dynamics because of the lifetime LED warranty. I believe the CD is made by JW Speaker, but has some different control chips in it.

The Custom Dynamics Adaptive II is so much better that I may not turn on my running lights at night now.
 

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