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Old Sep 17, 2018 | 03:03 PM
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Not sure about 2/1 but there is no fade in 8/2 flash.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2018 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by haze324
Not sure about 2/1 but there is no fade in 8/2 flash.
Do you have to do the resitor on the rear left and rear right on that flash i mean would the radio be putting signal to those wires on that flash i know they arent on the stock 2 speakers no amp flash. Also what is the eq curve difference on the 4 speakers no amp flash recomended by so many others.



Or is it if you choose one of these flashes having amp. that you can still use the speaker outs of the HU but switch your dsr to low lv instead of the high level input
 

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Old Sep 17, 2018 | 03:21 PM
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My experience is the 8/2 sounds better than any flash even other flashes with resistors. We never use them. The catch with the 8/2 flash is you need to find an Indy shop to do it and until recently there weren’t many. Fosgate is now packaging the flash tool to shops the sign up as dealers. It was much easier to have folks get the 4/0 flash at the dealer and add a resister but i don’t think it sounds better. If it were that easy Fosgate would provide their dealers resistors instead of a really expensive flash tool!
 
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Old Sep 17, 2018 | 03:26 PM
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My experience is the 8/2 sounds better than any flash even other flashes with resistors. We never use them. The catch with the 8/2 flash is you need to find an Indy shop to do it and until recently there weren’t many. Fosgate is now packaging the flash tool to shops the sign up as dealers. It was much easier to have folks get the 4/0 flash at the dealer and add a resister but i don’t think it sounds better. If it were that easy Fosgate would provide their dealers resistors instead of a really expensive flash tool!
So how do you hook up the DSR1 to the radio with the 8/2 flash. You dont need the resistors? still connect to the speaker wires ? do you choose low level input on the switch or still use high level switch. There is a shop here in town that can do flashes on harley they are a fosgate dealer. Cartoys in tulsa OK. not sure about if they can do that specific flash.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2018 | 04:01 PM
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I think you don't need the resistors when you flash with amplifier because, according to my understanding, the HU act as a preamp. Therefore, the output is a low level. Next Friday I will be at a RF dealer for the flash. RF recommend 2 speakers 1 Amp but I will ask for 8 speakers 2 Amp. I will see what they will suggest then.

Haze, correct me if I am wrong, You know a lot more than me.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2018 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by haze324
My experience is the 8/2 sounds better than any flash even other flashes with resistors. We never use them. The catch with the 8/2 flash is you need to find an Indy shop to do it and until recently there weren’t many. Fosgate is now packaging the flash tool to shops the sign up as dealers. It was much easier to have folks get the 4/0 flash at the dealer and add a resister but i don’t think it sounds better. If it were that easy Fosgate would provide their dealers resistors instead of a really expensive flash tool!
Do you think you can get better end results from the 8/2 flash than any other or does it just make it easier to get to the final tune?
 
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Old Sep 18, 2018 | 07:03 AM
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Guys, hopefully Gypsye and Gann can chime in regarding these flashes and how they impact the RF equipment. They both recently had their ears on the various flashes with an RF amp and I think the RF lid kit was even tested.
Also the lack of fade control is a fairly significant loss if your riding style puts u around town one day the on the big highway the next. Possibly more significant than the EQ curve cause if u cannot fade throughout the various riding envelope ur not gonna hear the shix anyways so does the EQ really matter more than not being able to hear the tunes at all?
Run 4/0 with a DSP or Line Leveler and call it good. Or rip the HU out and go with the Sony 5000.

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Old Sep 18, 2018 | 08:29 AM
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Guys, hopefully Gypsye and Gann can chime in regarding these flashes and how they impact the RF equipment. They both recently had their ears on the various flashes with an RF amp and I think the RF lid kit was even tested.
Also the lack of fade control is a fairly significant loss if your riding style puts u around town one day the on the big highway the next. Possibly more significant than the EQ curve cause if u cannot fade throughout the various riding envelope ur not gonna hear the shix anyways so does the EQ really matter more than not being able to hear the tunes at all?
Run 4/0 with a DSP or Line Leveler and call it good. Or rip the HU out and go with the Sony 5000.

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T can you elaborate more on needing to fade for "riding". If I had to chose between the flattest signal and fade, I'll take the flattest signal possible. The end result after using a DSP is better sound quality. Fade or lack of is something I'd have to work around, for example using the DSR1 instead of a PSM and fading thru the phone app, or adding a volume **** to the channel you want to tone down, etc. Not always the easiest or most convenient work around but the sound quality (at least to me) is the priority.

With respect to flashes and Fosgate equipment. Fosgate is offering the Flash tool to dealers that sign up big...so the flash they are using is the same one Indy shops have had for a while now. No difference in sound from shop to shop.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2018 | 02:22 PM
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So how do you hook up the DSR1 to the radio with the 8/2 flash. You dont need the resistors? still connect to the speaker wires ? do you choose low level input on the switch or still use high level switch. There is a shop here in town that can do flashes on harley they are a fosgate dealer. Cartoys in tulsa OK. not sure about if they can do that specific flash.
Can someone answer my question definitively. not guessing.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2018 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Morpheusdead
Can someone answer my question definitively. not guessing.
I use a Line out converter.

 
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